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I know I sold another elantra pedal on here back when I parted out my 94 elantra. Was that it? Couldn't have been a 4g setup because they are way different and look like a dsm pedal. Clutch/brake pedal are all one unit.

By using both the brake and clutch pedal assemblies from the same car I should be good but we'll see. I have noticed that the little tabs that make contact with the switches are in different places on the elantra pedals vs the csm ones.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

You sold me one when I first did the swap to my old red colt.

Did you ever install it? What brake pedal did you use if so?

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Ya, it worked great. I just cut the tab off the stock brake pedal and moved the brake light switch.

Cool deal but didn't the pedals end up being really close together? I guess it doesn't matter but I decided to just mod the elantra brake pedal since I went through the trouble of pulling it.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

They were pretty close, yes, but not close enough to cause any problems shifting or braking or anything like that.

^^^^Like what he said, a similar operation on mine. Here's a couple pics.

Chris, I must be clouded, cause I remember only swapping out the clutch pedal....were they all a one unit clutch/brake?
I can't remember which car you got it from, but you sent me the pedal, clutch master, hydraulic lines, and slave cylinder.

Had to sawzall the tab off my factory brake pedal because of interference. I said "rigged" up the brake switch to work with the new pedal...this is what I mean. It's not going anywhere. I guess some people take their dash out to do the swap. I just hung upside down for a couple hours and got it done.


A different angle, you can see a bolt hole for the frame...the one spot the clutch pedal was not lined up on. No worries.

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That actually looks like a csm pedal from what I can tell. The elantra one has 4 studs that go through the firewall but the csm one has 3 studs and one bolt. Also the elantra one has a coil spring that returns the pedal and the csm one has a long skinny spring that hooks under the dash. I guess its also possible that Hyundai updated their stuff too, I know mine was from a 94 or 95. I've sold so much shit on here I can't remember who got what.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

I dropped the front control arms today so that I could compare them to the Elantra arms. I just wanted to make sure they would fit and see what bushings I needed to order. The plan is to extend them a little so that I can use longer (and easier to find) dsm axles, I will also be using 4g 4x100 knuckles and hubs to get rid of the captive rotor setup. Since the Elantra's use a bolt on style ball joint it will be much easier to modify them for the longer axles.



stock 1.5 csm control arm



Elantra control arm with bolt on ball joints

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

So is there a dimensional difference?

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91 Talon - was 454 whp/440 ft/lbs, now DD
89 C52A - 4G63T To the crusher
91 C52A - 4G63T Up and Running (AWD swap coming!)

I planned on filling in the holes and redrilling new ones for the ball joint to use the dsm axle.. (along with camber plates for the top) when u find out the exact amount the holes need to be moved can u post it..(or pm me)? thanks much.

Steve

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Steve 89 colt 2.3 stroker stock top end. evo3@20 psi 13.489@99.30mph 3/10 2012
On drag radials.auto trans.launching @ 5 psi and no traction thru 2nd.

They seem to be identical.

slowdsm- I will be sure to post what I find out.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Isn't the width of a colt the same as a dsm? I am very curious what you figure out Chris seeing how I have a tote full of extra dsm axles. Do you know what the axle lengths for both a csm and dsm are?

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91 Talon - was 454 whp/440 ft/lbs, now DD
89 C52A - 4G63T To the crusher
91 C52A - 4G63T Up and Running (AWD swap coming!)

I remember another member on here posting that he extended each front control arm 3/4" and the dsm axles went right in. He used regular csm control arms but I'm thinking it should be much easier with the elantra arms. Once I get them cleaned up and modded I will post whatever I come up with.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Chris, keep in mind that my mirage is lowered quite a bit, and that after swapping in the elantra control arms my driver's side cv axle was maxed out. My situation was very unique it appeared to us all. I broke one axle, replaced it and broke another, and then the next one I replaced kept pulling out of the intermediate axle. I studied for a dsm axle that was close to 1 inch longer than the mirage turbo axle...I recall it to be just less than an inch longer, and it solved that problem in a snap!

And you know that I ride with natural negative camber....but I was thinking how much more you actually might pick up by extending the bolt-on ball joint a little further out, so that you can use a dsm axle. It's just food for thought....about the additional negative camber, but that's only speculation on my part.

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