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 Post subject: Swaybar Upgrade Anyone?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:26 pm 
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Hi. Has anyone upgraded their swaybar(err, ANTIsway bar)? I have my motor out in anticipation of an AWD conversion. I know that the current bar should fit very well. But should/could I upgrade the bar? Push to shove, I can go to a machine shop and have the current bar reproduced with a larger diameter steel, but is there an after market job that I can use? What are the problems? Should I make urethane bushings, or are these available, too? Thanks for advise. (Yes , I am going to do a search now; no, I forgot to do that before I wrote this, sorry.

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Couldn't you just use an upgrade rear sway bar for a 1g AWD? Those are easy to get ahold of. Suspension Techniques makes a 1" rear sway bar that comes with urethane bushings, I think RRE sells it for $160. It's a very nice piece, I have one on my 1g AWD.

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I have a upgraded rear sway bar! but couldn't tell you what kind. It was on the car when I bought it :D

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Other than the turbo sway bar (which I assume you have), I don't know of anything else that will fit.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:10 pm 
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In no way is mine stock! I will take pics tomorrow in the daylight. 2 people on the here have own this car also. maybe they can shed some light on it..Briggs and Antilag200

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:05 pm 
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CaptainTonus and t2fastalon - i'm pretty sure he meant the front swaybar

bill - sorry, i don't know of any other bars that would work. the option you said seems to be the only way at the moment.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:20 pm 
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Well, That sure leaves things open to try. I'll have to get an AWD one to check differences. Thanks.

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I seem to remember hearing that the 1G FWD one works in the rear. For the front, the 1G AWD one should work.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:06 am 
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he's going for awd.

its recommended that the fwd cars don't install a rear sway bar, as it can make the car snap oversteer and makes it unpredicatable while driving at 10/10ths.

as far as an awd converted csm gor for the huge rear sway bar, you will kave that extra oomph pushing you around, and it will allow you to 4 wheel drift through the corners, instead of understeer.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:12 am 
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as far as an awd converted csm go for the huge rear sway bar, you will have that extra oomph pushing you around, and it will allow you to 4 wheel drift through the corners, instead of understeer.
Ah! That sounds interesting, but what do you mean by the "huge" rear antisway bar? Model or part number? Dealer or aftermarket? :-?

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Bill, go with an RM racing rear swaybar, and poly bushings.

Mach V sells the rear bar for 175.00.


http://machv.com/newrmracsway.html






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as far as an awd converted csm go for the huge rear sway bar, you will have that extra oomph pushing you around, and it will allow you to 4 wheel drift through the corners, instead of understeer.
Ah! That sounds interesting, but what do you mean by the "huge" rear antisway bar? Model or part number? Dealer or aftermarket? :-?

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as far as an awd converted csm go for the huge rear sway bar, you will have that extra oomph pushing you around, and it will allow you to 4 wheel drift through the corners, instead of understeer.
Ah! That sounds interesting, but what do you mean by the "huge" rear antisway bar? Model or part number? Dealer or aftermarket? :-?

^^^ that one

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:16 pm 
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:D Cool. I just found out that lilEvo, now has his CD on AWD conversion ready. Cost:$50. Since I got onto this asway thing, I realize that I already have an upgraded REAR asway. Along with the roll cage, I'm thinking that this is enough in the back end. I will still look into the front improvement now that the bay is all open.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:09 pm 
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no updates? did you find out what will work in the front?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:17 pm 
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FYI upgraded swaybars on FWD are great so long as your not a pussy and can handle some opposite lock. My turbo Excel has upgraded front and rear bars and exhibits very nicely controlled "lift-off" oversteer. If it steers too much you just give it some more juice which understeers the front and corrects the action.


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