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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly.

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I thought the 2nd gens were rated at 210hp.

1st gen's were 195hp with m/t and 180hp with auto, 2nd gen's were 210hp with m/t and 205hp with auto. If my memory serves me correctly.

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All 90-94 DSM's made the same amount of power regardless of model. FWD's were rated at 190hp and AWD's were rated at 195hp, but many people argue that that was a marketing tactic more than anything. The Laser was dropped after '94 and never made it to the 2g body style. The Lasers also weren't much lighter, if at all lighter.

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1st gen's were 195hp with m/t and 180hp with auto, 2nd gen's were 210hp with m/t and 205hp with auto. If my memory serves me correctly.

I'm pretty sure all 2g's made 210hp, auto and stick.

I guess it depends on what magazine or article you read the stats from I guess.

Author:	akdriverjd [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:34 pm ]
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Hello all. For those of you who don't know me, I'm james and I live way up North in Alaska. I got my first Summit when I was 16 and it's all been downhill from there. After owning four four door Summits over 5 years, I just got out of the game when I was offered a direct trade for a 1990 Plymouth Laser RS. It's a five speed, 102,000 miles, and absolutely nothing wrong with it. Completely stock, and FWD of course. As much as I love CSMs, this is a refreshing (and faster) change of pace. I've been buying many parts from many members on here, and the car should be where I want it soon enough. This car, along with my 94 Trans Am and 70 VW Bus completes my flock of vehicles. New used clutch, Valve cover, and 2G manifold Lower shores MBC MBC installed Pod with Boost and Oil Pressure Installed (jean jacket was included with car haha) elbow brass fitting that needed to be modified to fit in my block, was a pain. But now I have two oil pressure sending units haha. Stock fitting was british pipe thread, the aftermarket unit was metric. That's all for now. Hopefully getting an exhaust, repaint and new wheels come summer time.

Author:	turboshawn [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:30 am ]
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momma always said dont leave the exshust manifold on the carpet and pick up your toys after your done playing with them

Author:	UnderPSI [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:58 am ]
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and never use a fram oil filter...

Author:	Coltsfan [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:16 am ]
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Glow shift eh? Nice I had one just like that, but I dropped it on the shop floor and it broke.

Author:	89Mirageman [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:55 pm ]
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Looks good but how did you find a rust free car in Alaska?

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Author:	biggspeed [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:58 pm ]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly.

Author:	Incoltnito [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:10 pm ]
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Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly. I thought the 2nd gens were rated at 210hp.

Author:	dsmcolt969 [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:21 pm ]
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looks good too bad there isnt all that much road to open her up in ak. ps alittle off topic but the first pic is in front of the airport correct?

Author:	EDGE1 [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:35 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly. I thought the 2nd gens were rated at 210hp. 1st gen's were 195hp with m/t and 180hp with auto, 2nd gen's were 210hp with m/t and 205hp with auto. If my memory serves me correctly.

Author:	CaptainTonus [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:20 pm ]
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Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly. All 90-94 DSM's made the same amount of power regardless of model. FWD's were rated at 190hp and AWD's were rated at 195hp, but many people argue that that was a marketing tactic more than anything. The Laser was dropped after '94 and never made it to the 2g body style. The Lasers also weren't much lighter, if at all lighter. Quote: 1st gen's were 195hp with m/t and 180hp with auto, 2nd gen's were 210hp with m/t and 205hp with auto. If my memory serves me correctly. I'm pretty sure all 2g's made 210hp, auto and stick.

Author:	89D15CRX [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:51 pm ]
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Nice find...and nice piece.

Author:	biggspeed [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:30 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Laser's the quickest of the dsm trio (laser/eclipse/talon) because they were the lightest. Or were they down on power compared to the eclipse/talon? They were rated at 190hp and the eclipse/talon was 210hp if I remember correctly. All 90-94 DSM's made the same amount of power regardless of model. FWD's were rated at 190hp and AWD's were rated at 195hp, but many people argue that that was a marketing tactic more than anything. The Laser was dropped after '94 and never made it to the 2g body style. The Lasers also weren't much lighter, if at all lighter. Quote: 1st gen's were 195hp with m/t and 180hp with auto, 2nd gen's were 210hp with m/t and 205hp with auto. If my memory serves me correctly. I'm pretty sure all 2g's made 210hp, auto and stick. I guess it depends on what magazine or article you read the stats from I guess.

Author:	CaptainTonus [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:09 am ]
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Quote: I guess it depends on what magazine or article you read the stats from I guess. I've never read a magazine article that had conflicting numbers in it. I've read a majority of the old issues that had DSM's in them too. The only thing the Lasers didn't have were some of the body effects parts like moldings and spoilers, which don't weigh very much. You could get any flavor DSM without the luxury options like cruise and power windows/doors. I've never seen a DSM without A/C from the factory.

Author:	TrevTec [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:03 pm ]
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Jesus, as if you all have never seen a turbo laser

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Author:	Incoltnito [ Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:32 pm ]
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Oh, I wanted to add that I thought all Lasers were FWD. But I have found a few in the last couple years that were AWD. I had a base model Laser a couple years ago....it was my first mitsubishi car! Anyways it felt pretty light compared to my Mirage. I think a high powered FWD Laser would be killer fun on the road though! I heard a rumor that some Auto dsms had a 13g turbocharger?