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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:25 pm 
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Its looking good, did you ever get to make any passes in it for it blew up?

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:32 am 
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Nope. It was only running for a month and 1200 miles and it would have been pointless with little 14" all seasons on it anyways. With the changes i've made and the addition of some 225/50 drag radials i'll get around to making a couple passes to see. Highway pulls are where the car is going to shine though. I would have liked to dyno it last fall to get a baseline but we were guessing around 250whp on the 14b in that video. Shooting for 400whp on the new setup.

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:05 pm 
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Update this.

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:58 am 
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Oh damn. Yeah this is pretty far behind.

Well to catch up, we spent a considerable amount of time chasing some boost leaks and ultimately an odd exhaust restriction limiting the boost at 20psi and causing things to be rather laggy. Also discovered during our testing that cylinder 3 had low compression due to some valve seat issues. Most likely from the old engine when the piston melted. I had the head gone through and rebuilt with a 3 angle valve job and some Manley single springs from my buddies over at Force Engineering. Also put a set of HKS 264/272 cams and oldschool AEM gears from a friend while things were apart.

Back to the lag and boost issue. We were seeing full boost around 4800rpms and couldn't get more than 20psi out of it. Tried different wastegate springs, countless boost tests, vacuum routing, even blocking the wastegate off completely and nothing. We were ready to junk the Tim's Turbos .63 housing in favor of a Bullseye .70 when I discovered something ironic while checking the car over the weekend before shootout. The crappy 2.5" temporary exhaust that I had made by a local muffler shop to mate to my 3" downpipe the previous season had a 2" diameter resonator flared to fit a 2.5" pipe!!! I had an 18" long restrictor in my exhaust! I yanked the 2.5" setup off, backed the boost controller all the way down, and tried an open downpipe pull. I couldn't keep it under 30psi with the 20psi spring in the wastegate. Lesson here: Don't cheap out on exhaust. Go big or go home. -Literally.

I quick ordered a section of 3" & a turn down and we made a new exhaust dumped before the fuel tank under the car two days before Shootout. The car made it there and back great and I did an easy shakedown pass while there for shits and giggles. Didn't try heating the tires or launching it but just rolling it out off the line on junk drag radials I ran a 13.9 @ 120 with a 2.4 60'. It's easily a mid 120s car right now and gets awful squirly in 4th unless the tires are good and hot. 1st-3rd is a joke.

We've since had some fun picking on some local vettes and such. Never got around to making a serious attempt at the track. I did dyno it a couple weeks ago at the Force Engineering dyno day. Made 424/395 at 25psi with a "safe" street tune and very little timing. My 1050s are at something like 115% idc so i'm thinking some 1650s and 30psi should be good for a solid 470-480whp with some actual dyno tuning.

Lets see if the video works
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10 ... 1544048923

Plans for next season:

Weld the diff
Probaby an unsprung 6 puck disk while the trans is out
24.5" slicks
Galant knuckles with 2 piston front brakes
Custom rear coil springs. I'm thinking 300lb qa1
FIC 1650 and more boost
10an crankcase vents


And a couple current engine bay pics

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:36 am 
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I have some thing for that bucket ;) are you ready for your spanking :finga:


Looks awesome as always

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:49 am 
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I'm thinking with a little practice mid 11s and 130+ should be attainable. It would be cool if I could run fast enough that I get booted at Martin

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:53 am 
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Now that things are finally happening I might as well bring this up to speed. I bought my first house in November and got settled in.

Messy garage and the Mirage hibernating. Cheaptalon's new Summit sitting in my driveway awaiting all of his parts.

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I've acquired most of the parts I need to get it where I want this year:
-LSD insert
-24.5x8x15 M/T ET Drag slicks
-Fresh set of 225/50/15 BFG drag radials for the street
-FIC 1650s
-ACT 6-puck unsprung disk
-7-blade HX35W to replace my tired 8-blade WH1C
-45psi boost gauge
-B&M linelock

Trans apart installing insert and new axle seals.

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I'm putting the trans back together this weekend with the new clutch disk then it's on to installing the linelock. I still need to order the steelies for my slicks and some 400lb QA1 springs for the rear. I'm also going to cut the front springs a little more to lower the car a total of 1" from last year. Hoping to have it back on the road by May and start tuning!

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:50 pm 
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This is so cool. It brings back a lot of memories for me and my sedan. It would've been so nice to swap that car because it was so comfortable and clean. Keep up the good work bro. It looks good.

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:47 pm 
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I've got the same impact, they're pretty beasty!

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:32 am 
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The car is back together and running strong. Brought it down to Force Engineering yesterday and spent a few hours tuning it. Ended up at 444/420 @ 30psi. We didn't feel the need to turn it up any more with the torque numbers it was making so we kept it "safe" being it's on a stock bottom end.

Video from one of the final pulls:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10 ... 864&type=3


Oh and Cheaptalon's hatch may or may not be taking residence at my place from now on as well ;)

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:48 pm 
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I need to drive this thing. It probably makes roughly 400whp more than when I owned it and drove it last lol.

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:12 pm 
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Finally got a chance to go to the track and make a few passes. Definitely need to get back and spend some more time as i'm so accustomed to roll racing and not using 1st or 2nd. I finally weighed the car too! 2265lbs in street trim with a half tank of gas. Anyways I did a couple runs first on the drag radials and went 12.6 at 125. I switched to the slicks and made a few passes getting used to how the car was reacting to them and getting better and working on burnout technique in the box. The best i ran was a measly 12.3 @ 125 but I can definitely feel there's a lot to be improved with driving technique. I think mid 11s could be attainable and with a couple more mph. The last pass I made I botched 2nd so I got out of it and drove it out. Afterwards when turning I noticed something was binding and not happy. Got back to the pits and found my inboard drivers axle joint pretty sloppy. We rolled the dice and drove it home taking it easy. I got it out and apart today to find this.

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All three sides of the cup are heated like that. It moved way too freely yet still fully assembled and attached and one of the rollers comes all the way out of the cup when you twist it that direction. Good news is I'm 99% sure I will be able to get a correct reman axle from Napa. If that is the case i'll be sure to post the part number in the axle thread to help everyone out. Then it's back to the track for more abuse!

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 Post subject: Re: SPOOLD's 92 Sedan
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:31 am 
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thats nuts dang... Always fun racing with you guys

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