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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:04 pm 
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there was no bumper support in there to begin with, the bumper is just bolted to the chassis. The muffler is coming in today, so maybe I will get a few minutes to fiddle with it tonight, that way you can see some of the constraints.

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:33 pm 
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thanks aaron hope all is well with you
Doing good, wishing I could post updates on my bucket. Trying to save money to buy Wheatley's trailer and some goodies off the evo.

I diggin the exhaust, nice work! I always like seeing updates from this car.

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:53 am 
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Cool aaron, say hi to Matt for me :)

Worked on the exhaust for the last couple of days, Kevin was nice enough to help out with a couple of the bends around the diff, as it was a complex bend. Last night I was able to finish up the weldes on the exhaust, In addition I added a v-band connection at the magnaflow muffler, for ease of removal during servicing.

So here is the exhaust set up a poor one on the car , but it shows the angles
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the full exhaust in 3 inch with my purging tank in the back
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a shot of the v band connection
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and all tied up with muffler
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and finally a weld bead of the night
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Hopefully today I can finish putting the hangers on and building the rest of the tip

thanks for looking and more to come as always

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:31 pm 
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Nice looking bead!

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:07 am 
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Thanks aaron :)

So I have spent a cool 5 hours or so, screwing with the exhaust.... Whose the mentally challenged bafoon, that decided to run the exhaust through the reverse lights ? ... oh wait....

This was not the brightest idea and is causing much aggrevation ...

Some welds on the brackets... not the best but an improvement non the less
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Now for this tip , which was quite complicated for me to build from a circle to oval, that is offset-to one side ... ughh looks like poo

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once I have the last few small pieces in it, I will try to flood the whole thing with argon and weld the joints, that was alot harder than I anticipated...

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:36 am 
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Due to my insomniacal virtue, last night was a marathon of tig welding. The following post represents approximately 4 hours of tig welding, with the caveat disclaimer : The following images depict a novice Tig welder, no reference inferred or otherwise explicitly expressed in capability of expertise of this pertinent, graceful and artful skill implied by the original poster.

Let us begin with Runner number 3 of the exhaust manifold, completely back purged,
Settings are as follows
50 amps max, 3/32 E3 purple tungsten,25cfh, #12 gas lens with WP9 torch, 0.045 stainless filler.
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The next portion was directed to the stainless exhaust tip, due to the shear number of the joints in this given piece, I opted not to back purge the pieces, understandably the oxidation and sugaring that is on the rear of the joint is prevelant to an amount that some may deem unacceptable. At this given juncture, my election is to maintain what has already been created.
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the piece in its entirety,
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some snap shots of the rather poor capability is maintaining the heat on 18gauge stainless sheet.
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Now on to the installation pictures
V-band connection
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Exiting through the reverse tail light bumper cavity
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and what it looks like from the outside, understandably some slight adjustments will be required to position the piece within its given domain

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I am rather pleased with this current effort, in my humble opinion, it severed a few oppurtunities for improvement that this vehicle desperately required, which were not only limited to aesthetics, but cleanliness in addition to maintaining functionality at the highest level within my amateur skill and capabilities.

Hopefully you have enjoyed the post, as much as I have enjoyed writing it and creating the metal pieces that are contained within.

Regards to all
warren

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:45 am 
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So awesome. I bet youhad fun doing all that tig welding.
So...how will we know whenyour backing up? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:42 pm 
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Come on man, don't be so hard on yourself. That looks great for a novice! Seriously man, you've got to give yourself a pat on the back for that, it is seriously a job well done! There's no possible way that I could've done that or even come close to the end result of all of your hard work. The manifold, the exhaust, all of it requires a level of skill and expertise that not a whole lot of people possess but yet, you did it. As always, great job, and I can't wait to see more.

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:35 pm 
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Love the bumper exhaust!

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:29 am 
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thanks for the comments guys

Sunday Morning (6:00-9:30) runner number 1

The welds were significantly different than runner 3 , puddle control was better, however things were still a little hot in my opinion.
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Later that afternoon, a dear friend and mentor finished welding runner number 2, the most complex one of the bunch, it is amazing how he used the same settings, of the machine, that I did, and yet his welds were drastically different than mine, the colors were a deep Gold color, gorgeous, rich and vibrant.
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and here is my weld in comparison, same settings but as you can see a very different technique and result.
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Later that night,11:30 -3:20
I was able to finish up runner number 4 and weld as much as I could of the collector and transistion piece to the flange.
A weld from runner number 4
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Some welds from the collector and transistion piece
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The Three dimensional jigsaw puzzle is starting to take shape.
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Thank you for taking the time out of your day, to read my little blog, Feel free to comment/critque/enjoy. Consumers energy is in love with this new hobby, my confidence that my wallet won't share this given emotion is high.

Regards
warren

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:33 pm 
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The only way to learn is to get out there and get dirty, props for tackling this yourself. It looks great and I never would have thought to exit the exhaust out of the backup light cutout, great idea and different too!

Can't wait to see more updates on this. It seems the builds section is pretty much dead but you and a few others are keeping it alive.

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:13 pm 
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I agree with chris.. props on doing this yourself... from looking at your friends weld and yours it looks like his.. I guess u would call them (at least I will call them that here for reference lol).. adding the rod... his are spaced out farther than yours..which tells me you are keeping the welder in same spot alot longer to get all the closer.... adding the rod... marks and that is what is making the diff color than his.. maybe on a scrap piece try to do the same thing you have been doing but move about 25-40% faster and see if that helps?





and I love them tips out the back.

Steve

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:17 pm 
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Thanks for the kind works guys,

With my friends welds, he was "pushing" the filler into the puddle, in addition he was going significantly slower than I was, but with continuous gas coverage over the weld. Which is the main reason for his Gold color. Typically from what I have seen, a colorless weld and gold is acceptable. Anything with color in it, the pretty colors that folks love to see, have some level of contaminates in it at the surface of the weld. If the weld is a dark grey, its pretty cooked and the chromium from my understanding is removed, which negates a lot of the corrossion resistant properties of stainless.

With my welds, I tend to dip the rod quickly,but I didn't have enough gas coverage on the weld, meaning that as it was cooling down, it needed more post flow than what I was giving it.. It is kind of hard to explain, but I hope that there was some logic to what I said.

once again thanks to everyone, for motivating me to push myself a little furthur. No matter how many years I have been in the game ( 14 years) , the hobby surprises me with something new daily.

warren

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:14 am 
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once again thanks to everyone, for motivating me to push myself a little furthur. No matter how many years I have been in the game ( 14 years) , the hobby surprises me with something new daily.

warren
Hell man, I've been in this game ever since I was 12 and I'm still learning something new every day. I just passed my written test to get my CDL and I went to school to be a diesel mechanic. You always have to go into new things with an open mind or you'll never be able to humble yourself enough to absorb the information. I have ADHD and sitting down to learn something new to you and be able to take something away from what you're learning takes criticism and humility. Nobody worth anything is ever going to knock you for taking the initiative to learn something new, and we're all here to encourage people to take strides and come up with new and exciting ideas. Your friend has been doing this particular thing for a long time and I'm sure that it took him a long time to perfect his technique. I'm sure that he will tell you that it takes time and that we all have to start somewhere, practice and patience, that's how we learn new things. From what I've seen, you've got a great start and recognizing your faults is the first step to becoming better at whatever it is that you want to achieve.
Sorry for the long post, ADHD...lol I'm notoriously long winded.

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 Post subject: Re: 91 Eagle Summit AWD
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:11 am 
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^amen brother, thanks for the encouragement. It is appreciated.

Not in a mood to talk, as it is 1:04am and I still cant sleep, hammered away at the manifold for a solid 4 hours, she is finished . I will talk about some of the challenges that I had with it later.,

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next quick quality control on the welds, then off to machine shop to true up flanges, then coating.

see ya later , its has been an adventure. Time for a new chapter to start

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91 Eagle Summit AWD 10.14@138.31 (6.56 @110.30 1/8th, 1.48 60') 1.40 best 60 ft - best mph 154
03 EVO 10.86 @ 134.73 best mph 139.00
90 GST 10.36 @ 142.49 best mph 147.10


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