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Well since I have the 1.8 head already I was thinking maybe a 14b would get me to the goal of 300whp with 660cc injectors and a safc2 evo8 fmic 2.5" piping 1g bpv not sure on my fuel pump yet but I'll figure that all out down the road. I see some guy's are leaning towards 560cc injectors lately any reason? will they be more efficient on a set up like mine? also have the 2g maf.. Ported 2g o2 housing ported 2g manifold. safc2 2g fwd down pipe 2.5"- 3" and 2.5" all the way back from there. Boost logics MBC. Stock clutch so far. but looking for a act2100 to bolt to the stock 1.6 flywheel anyone got one for sale?


Thanks guys

I'm guessing people use the 560cc injectors because they're stock injectors for an EVO so you know they're OEM quality and you can usually find them really cheap. As far as efficiency is concerned, a fuel injector doesn't have a lot to do with that. If you're running a 2g MAF then I would recommend larger injectors like 660's, because a 2g MAF leans you out about 20% over stock because it's larger than the stock MAF.
ACT doesn't make any clutches that fit on the 1.6 flywheel. You'll have to step up to 2.0 stuff.

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Realy ?
Look here 1.6 fi 215mm : http://www2.advancedclutch.com/media/pd ... atalog.pdf

Thanks for the quick responses guy's. Well just as i became happy about the 1.8 head. I just removed the valve cover and got kinda sad. Because I found a roller rocker actually fell off of one of the intake valves think it was cylinder 3 IIRC.

I also took note to the markings on the cams and they both say R4 you guys have any idea what cams these are? I also notice that the lifters are stock by the small hole in the center.

So I guess one lost pressure and thats what caused the rocker to fall off. Luckily there was no damage besides a small mark on the cam lobe that doesn't even catch a finger nail.

Again thanks for taking your time to help me out guy's I appreciate it. Any links for the 3g lifters? will they drop right into the 1.8 head?

Well that's news to me. Great news for the guys with 1.6 parts on their cars.
Yes, 3g lifters will drop right in. http://www.extremepsi.com/store/custome ... 355&page=1

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

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Is topline a good brand? And how do you think a 14b would do? just trying to save some money now that i have to replace the lifters.

Topline probably supplies the lifters that Mitsu bags from what I gathered with random heresay off the net over the years. lol

I used them in my 4g61t build and they got things really quiet.

If you had a rocker fall off, was this motor running in your car previously or was the motor received as such? Rockers usually pop off when the timing jumps and pistons meet valves, but it could still happen all the same, so don't jump to conclusions just yet.

1st Gen 4G63 and 4G61 clutches are interchangable.

No they aren't. 4G61's use a 215mm clutch and 4G63T's use a 225mm clutch. Non-turbo 4G63's do use the 215mm clutch though, if that's what you meant.

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

http://www.facebook.com/captaintonus

the car was running great actually. the timing did jump a tooth not much. I corrected it threw the cas once i notice the auto adjuster for the belt i got new was defective. I will run a compression test before i do anything i guess but i might as well replace the lifters first i guess. This way if everything is good I don't have to take it apart again.

Once I have the intake cam out i will be able to see more as far as the one valve but I dont think i will be able to distinguish a bent valve without removing the head and being for sure. It was only one intake valve I guess I could bore scope the Cylinder and check that way also. I'm crossing my fingers for just a bad lifter to be the cause of this issue and no bent valve.

I noticed the car was slugish and would lag a bit more once this happened.

The R4 cams are the stock G4CN NT cams and you don't want to use those. Throw a set of 1g turbo cams or your 61t cams in there before you put the head on the motor.
That 14b will put a smile on your face with the 61t. It'll spool pretty quickly and pull hard. I had one on my 61t with a ported 2g mani and 2g O2 housing with a 3" 2G AWD downpipe, 560 cc injectors, 2G maf, and a SAFC II and it ran like a beast!

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2006 Pontiac Vibe 1.8L 1ZZFE 132HP
1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe 1.8L DOHC TURBO
Conner 6/23/09 8 lbs 3 ozs 20.5 inches
Caleb 3/17/12 8 lbs 15 ozs 20 inches

1G cams before settling on 4g61t cams, believe me, the 1G cams are setup better for the 14b combination of equipment.

sorry for the threadjack but its the most recent 3g lifter thread. What cars actually came with these lifters? 3g eclipse? what about galant, etc? what years? and does anyone have a side-by-side comparison shot of 1g vs. 3g orifices? The reason I ask is because I am a broke ass student going through his head now while waiting on money to be freed up for the rest of the little BS. I can pull stuff at the junkyard cheap, even out of motors in the yard because it is a tow yard and everything gets crushed. running motor = good lifters, right?

thanks guys and again sorry about the threadjack

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3g doesn't refer to the generation of car they come in, it's just the 3rd revision they've made to the lifters to keep them from clogging up and ticking. They did come on 3g eclipses though, and galants, and pretty much any other Mitsubishi that you can think of.

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I have no other cams these are what cam on the car when i bought it along with the head. So I guess the guy that did the work before must not have known to much if he put NT cams in there. They are more aggressive correct? If thats the case maybe I should worry about bent valves Geez this is the worst part about buying used cars you don't know what moron touched them. and did what.

Are 2g 96 talon cams ok to use? how about the lifters from that motor also?