Most likely neither of the cars will be at the shootout. I think I'm out of town that weekend unfortunately
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Most likely neither of the cars will be at the shootout. I think I'm out of town that weekend unfortunately
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| Author: | boostfreak [ Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
I can get one out there for you 
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| Author: | aaronsbig16g [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Nice numbers! Really nice looking car, wish I could check it out at shootout. Love the evo as well. |
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
I'll let ya know JP. I need to put the new rear end I have for it in the Evo before taking it anywhere too far. The rear Cusco diff is setup for gravel right now and pretty aggressive on the street to say the least. And thanks Aaron always enjoy reading the updates on your car as well. |
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Little Update: Just bit the bullet and got some 2150's for the car. They really were a breeze to just throw in and pretty much drive with minor tweaking. I also threw in a 3-port solenoid for ECU controlled boost and put a flex fuel sensor in the car as I'm planning to be going back and forth between pump and ethanol pretty regularly. I drove the car about 50 minutes south of me to Dave Katz to have him tune the car. The car ended up making around 450whp at 24-25psi on pump and we didn't push it to much more. During one of the E85 runs, we noticed some oil dripping from the timing cover and called it a day. It ended up being the oil pump eating itself into the case, so I got a new front case, pump, and added a GSC Race Balance Shaft to hopefully prevent future oil pump issues. Back on the dyno with E85 and around 33-34psi the car ended up making 613whp and 458tq. Overall I have nothing but positive things to say about Dave's help and tuning. Both were top notch and I'd recommend him to any DSM'ers in the DMV area. I have to sort out a few braking issues and then hopefully get to the track soon. Here's the dyno chart and I'll try to get a dyno vid up here soon as well 
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| Author: | CaptainTonus [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
That is killer power for an off-the-shelf 35R. What exhaust housing are you running? Also, out of curiosity, what were your injector duty cycles at high boost? |
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Yep non HTA GT3582R T3 .82 A/R V-Band housing. I'll have to look back at the logs but I know I had more room to go. |
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| Author: | boostfreak [ Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Quote: Little Update:
Just bit the bullet and got some 2150's for the car. They really were a breeze to just throw in and pretty much drive with minor tweaking. I also threw in a 3-port solenoid for ECU controlled boost and put a flex fuel sensor in the car as I'm planning to be going back and forth between pump and ethanol pretty regularly. I drove the car about 50 minutes south of me to Dave Katz to have him tune the car. The car ended up making around 450whp at 24-25psi on pump and we didn't push it to much more. During one of the E85 runs, we noticed some oil dripping from the timing cover and called it a day. It ended up being the oil pump eating itself into the case, so I got a new front case, pump, and added a GSC Race Balance Shaft to hopefully prevent future oil pump issues. Back on the dyno with E85 and around 33-34psi the car ended up making 613whp and 458tq. Overall I have nothing but positive things to say about Dave's help and tuning. Both were top notch and I'd recommend him to any DSM'ers in the DMV area. I have to sort out a few braking issues and then hopefully get to the track soon. Here's the dyno chart and I'll try to get a dyno vid up here soon as well Very nice! That is on par with what we made on Matt's car with the smaller turbine (I think we were at @33psi ) so there is sure some room to grow.  Clamp the gate! |
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno |
Forgot I never updated this. So late last year I finally got a chance to hit the track. Drove it over an hour one way to the track including some stop and go DC traffic as well as rain and made it back home afterwards so that was a success. I picked up some lightly used 24.5x8x15 M/T ET Drags had them mounted on 15x7 Kosei K1's I picked up a while back and threw that and my jack in the back on the car. For the first run and first time on slicks, I turned the boost down to 23-24psi and had about 13-14psi in the slicks iirc. Everything went pretty smooth and ran a 11.6@122 (all the runs on pump e80ish). Looked over the log and everything seemed fine so upped the boost to 33-34psi and lowered the slicks to 11-12. I also upped the launch rpm a little and ended up cutting a 1.70 60' but got locked out of 2nd on the limiter. I got back into it just to get a good 3-4 log and noticed my a/f's creeping into the upper 13's toward the end of the track so I got out of it. Looked over the logs again and it was for sure creeping and I verifed it with a few more 3rd gear logs. I tried adding some more fuel but nothing would help so I called it a day and drove home. Since then I've replaced one of my old bosch pumps with a new 044 and sent my 2150's back to FIC for flow testing and cleaning. I just got the results back and they were near perfect, so I'm still searching for a fuel pressure issue it seems. I'm going to dig back into it when I get back home in a few days and get back to the track soon hopefully.  
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| Author: | 89Mirageman [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno (Track Update) |
Any time that you drive to the track, make an 11 second pass and then drive home is a great day  . Car looks awesome too!
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| Author: | DSMERwCOLT [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno (Track Update) |
Gorgeous car and love the Evo1 |
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| Author: | aaronsbig16g [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New Summit Setup on the Dyno (Track Update) |
Had better shake down runs than me, lol. Had to push my car on the trailer each time. Can't wait to see what it does when you get the bugs worked out. |
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| Author: | wrx110487 [ Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Much Needed and Long Overdue Summit Build Update (1/23/1 |
 Just Kidding..... Sorry this is long overdue, but figured I'd atleast post something on the progress. Sooo over Summer I got a smoking deal on a complete rear subframe, 4-bolt LSD rear, Shep stage 3 trans, t-case, axles, and that got the ball rolling. Got the parts cleaned up and picked up some other parts along the way including expo spindles, Elantra control arms, 3sx adjustable upper controls arms, solid subframe bushings, and a bunch of other stuff along the way.   I had picked up some CSM specific K-sports earlier this year, so the fronts bolted right up. The rears obviously wouldn’t work with the DSM subframe, so ended up cutting off the bottoms of the sleeves and getting heavy duty heim joints that were the correct size for the DSM sleeve. That go the coilover on the rear but still had the unwanted binding of the springs up top. Ended up cutting the strut towers to get them leveled out.      I had a stock DSM driveshaft but it was kind of shitty. Last year I ended up on a flight with Loan Prayoonto of Prayoonto Racing Honda fame (they have a bunch of nasty Hondas including a low 8-second turbo Integra and she drives a NA Civic hatch sponsored by Driveshaft Shop that’s gone 9.6’s at 144 which is crazy to me). Anyways she became a good friend and she got a me a deal on a 3.5” aluminum driveshaft I couldn’t pass up. It gets rid of a carrier bearing and hopefully some drivetrain shock resistance to keep the driveline parts alive.   A big thing we, I say we because my buddy Russell did the fab work for the build. Obviously he killed it throughout the entire thing and you can clearly see the quality of work he does. So it was decided we were going to try and get the driveshaft as straight as possible whatever it took. In order to do that the frame needed to be notched in several places in order to move the subframe up into the car. Even the cross bar that the subframe mounted to had to be cut and boxed back in to fit the driveshaft. This also gave the car a ton of ground clearance with the whole setup tucked up nicely. Everything was boxed back in and the subframe was officially straight and in the car. The goal was a driveshaft angle of about 2 degrees, which is the least amount of angle necessary to still keep the bearings lubricated. It’s right on the money and looks badass with the driveshaft. It is really unfortunate it’s all going to be covered up.         Next was the driveshaft tunnel that needed to be remade to fit the driveshaft.     One thing I really didn’t realize was how tough it would be to find quality lightweight 5x114 wheels in 15x7. Obviously the car was being converted to 5 lug so a new set of wheels was necessary. Of course I could have picked up a set of slipstreams, which I was very close to doing after struggling to find anything, but everyone has those and I wanted something a little different. After searching for weeks without any real luck I finally found a set of Enkei ES Tarmacs on Ebay. The only issue was they were in Malaysia and were asking $600 for the set and another $150 for shipping. There was a make an offer option so I figured what the hell and lowballed the shit out of him. To my surprise, within 2 hours he accepted and I got them for about $450 shipped to my house. That’s cheaper than Rotas so I was more than happy. Even more surprising was they got to my house in Cleveland in less than 5 days. Couldn’t believe it. Ended up with a reputable wheel and the best part is they weigh 10.2lbs. Of course, a week later I found another local deal on a set of DR17 wheels with a brand new set of 235/60 M&H Biasplys. It’s a little taller of a tire at 25.4” than I need, but for the price I’ll give them a shot and sell the tires and keep the wheels if they don’t work out. Both look mean as hell on the car and I’ll get some better pics as it gets nicer outside.  Didn’t really have too much of a plan for the front end, but somewhere in the middle of everything it got chopped off and a chromoly tube front was added. Shed some weight and gave me a ton of room. The front motor mount was pretty damn close to the turbo outlet so the mount was extended and fits like a champ now. Also ended up cutting a bunch of the already hacked up sheet metal up front and using 1/4” round bar instead. Looks a ton cleaner and definitely stronger.        Even before the AWD swap, the car desperately needed a brake upgrade. Slowing down from crossing the traps at 140 with the single piston setup was getting a little old. In my search for a dual piston DSM setup, I got a great deal on a full Outlander front brake setup. For those that are unfamiliar, it’s basically a dual piston DSM caliper with a special bracket that spaces out the caliper and allows you to run about an inch larger rotor. It was a better price than I could find on a regular DSM dual piston setup so I went for it. Also the rotors were dual drilled for 4x114.3 so if they didn’t clear my 15” wheel setups, which was my main worry, I could throw the whole setup on my Evo 1 which has 17” wheels and use the Evo’s regular dual piston setup on the Summit. The outlander setup barely cleared on the DR17’s and of course wasn’t even close on the Enkeis. I kind of had an idea this might happen, so off they came. My buddy actually had a BNIB set of factory 2g AWD Caliper brackets he donated, so I threw those on and everything fit perfect. And the Evo happily got a brake upgrade.    The car went under the knife Oct. 1 and on Nov. 30th the car was back on the ground. We put the coilovers in the middle of their adjustment to see what we were working with and this is where it ended up. Even with the big ass tires, it still looks like it’s going to clear the fenders and the control arms clear as well. How it squats with 10lbs in the slicks is still TBD but it’s looking pretty good.      New rear floor  Next up was the cage. All chromoly 1 5/8" and should be certified to 8.50's           I had a single Sparco in there, but was having trouble finding a matching seat. During my weekly Craigslist searches, I found a local drag racer getting rid of expired Kirkey Pro’s and a set of 3 legit 5-point harnesses for $200. Couldn’t pass that up and I think they’re going to look great when everything all painted and done.   More updates to come soon… |
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| Author: | Mechacode [ Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Much Needed and Long Overdue Summit Build Update (1/23/1 |
Looking great! |
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| Author: | UnderPSI [ Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Much Needed and Long Overdue Summit Build Update (1/23/1 |
Wow, I'm speechless. This could very easily be one of the best awd conversions to date, bravo. Keep up the great work. |
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