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| Author: | PlymouthArrow [ Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 4g61t or 4g63t into RWD Dodge Colt or Plymouth Arrow? |
Ok, so I have this black 1978 Plymouth Arrow GT. The existing 1.6 G32B engine runs quite well all things considered, but doubling the existing power would be quite a kick. My question is would a 4g61 or 4g63 bolt to the existing 5 speed? The extensive wiring needed to accomplish the swap doesn't bother me, but if it won't bolt to the tranny I don't think I'll bother. Thanks! Joshua Skinner |
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| Author: | PlymouthArrow [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:20 am ] |
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 Ok, I was looking at some 4G63T pictures and see that the cooling water outlet is on the transmission (rear for RWD vehicles) end of the cylinder head. The outlet on the current engine is built into the intake manifold near the front of the engine. Can anyone point me to some detailed 4g63 pictures? I'm having trouble finding good cylinder head detail shots. Thanks! Joshua Skinner |
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| Author: | styler93gsx [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:31 am ] |
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You have to register to www.imagestation.com but once you do I have a shitload of pics on there. Heres my link http://www.imagestation.com/members/Styler93GSX |
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| Author: | styler93gsx [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:34 am ] |
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 Does anyone have one of these tached clusters |
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| Author: | moidsm1 [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:43 am ] |
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PlymouthArrow In my rwd swap I ran into the same problems. go to my website for some Ideas. The site may be down though but keep trying. |
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| Author: | PlymouthArrow [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:13 pm ] |
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Ok so you cut the firewall to clear the thermostat housing. I'll look into the thermostat relocation for mine. The Plymouth Arrow I have is a 5 speed and the 1.6 got the same 5 speed as the 2 liter Arrows and the Arrow car 2 liter is the same as the Arrow/D50 pickup engine so my tranny might work. If not I'll get a later pickup tranny. I'll have to get the 2 liter engine brackets (and radiator), but that's easy. Now for a 4G63T parts car... Joshua Skinner P.S. You ground radio? I was USAF Satcom '94-'98 |
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| Author: | miserymane [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:00 pm ] |
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http://www.mygalant.com/docs/1g-90-92-4g63overhaul.pdf that might help you... 4g63 engine manual online, covers all versions; fwd, rwd ,sohc ,dohc, etc.. |
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| Author: | PlymouthArrow [ Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:57 pm ] |
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Another question. Would the Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo ('85-'88) G32B exhaust manifold bolt up to the existing Plymouth Arrow G32B? I think I'll seek one out and go turbo that way before I spend the bucks on a 4G63 swap. Joshua Skinner |
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| Author: | coltturbouk [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:48 am ] |
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No reason why it shouldn't, as long as you lower the compression as well. Not a good idea to run a turbo with the standard compression ratio. I've just stripped the 32B turbo out of my car, as the block was cracked. shame you'r not in Scotland! |
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| Author: | Gage [ Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:29 am ] |
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Quote: PlymouthArrow
you looking for a GT cluster with a 145 speedo or just one with a tach cuse i have a stock G15 cluster with a tach but it only goes to 125mph In my rwd swap I ran into the same problems. go to my website for some Ideas. The site may be down though but keep trying. let me know if you would want it or not Pat |
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| Author: | evil93evo [ Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:47 am ] |
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Hey, I'm just across the bridge in Vancouver, If you want to maybe get rid of the Arrow in the future let me know I've been looking all over for a Arrow or Old RWD Colt to work on. I've been looking for some thing beside my FWD colt to fool around with lately Just email me at My Aol addess. Thanks Tom Hartshorn |
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| Author: | texmirage [ Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 4g61t or 4g63t into RWD Dodge Colt or Plymouth Arrow? |
[quote but if it won't bolt to the tranny I don't think I'll bother. Thanks! yes it will. It has a 6 bolt flywheel too. If I remember right you can use AWD pressure plate for that extra bite. |
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| Author: | DarkHorse [ Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:32 am ] |
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Quote: I've been looking for some thing beside my FWD colt to fool around with lately Just email me at My Aol addess.
im a little ways south, in albany. in a yard here we have a nearly complete 77 arrow gt, is that good enough for ya?and i also know of a nearly complete hyundai pony in a far back corner of a yard near home....its canadian, because it has the speedo in kph. pm me and i'll let you know if you're interested. I am in AZ for a while, but I will be home soon to see my colt again...i miss the blue bastard. |
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| Author: | youngsmith [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:57 pm ] |
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okay, here you go.... The 4g63t will bolt to the tranny that you have, but you should use the fwd flywheel. a decent fwd clutch will give you more than enough bite to spin the tires all the way through the gears. The g32b turbo exhaust manifold, and turbo will bolt up, but if it was me, I'd try to get the whole system, head, intake, exhaust, sensors, and wiring, computer etc. in fact, just try to find a complete g32b motor, or better yet, a donor vehicle. you will have to use your starter though, and rear engine cover plate, as the fwd versions are different. A big problem with the truck transmissions that you mentioned earlier is that in the rwd stuff, mits decided that the engines mated to manual transmissions should be a little stronger, so in '81, I believe, they changed the width of their bolt patterns, and engine blocks for rwd manual trans models. The old bolt patterns was 12.5" the new is 13.5" so a rwd g63b motor that was mated to a manual trans is an inch wider than a 4g63t motor mated to a fwd trans, whether manual or auto! and the rwd auto transmissions are 12.5" just to comlplicate things.  This info is good for the U.S. and may not apply to elsewhere. |
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| Author: | coltturbouk [ Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:16 pm ] |
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I have the whole system, but me being the the UK means it's not much good to you. Everything apart from the block itself. |
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