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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 10:16 pm 
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what company makes a shop manual that covers the '92 Colt? I wanna change the timing belt on my 4G15 but have never done a timing belt and/or chain on an OHC engine before, if it were a typical overhead valve american engine I wouldn't beed a shop manual for anything other then tourqe specs. anyway about all I know of timing belts is that most OHC engines you can lock the cam in place with a pin punch if you get it to the right point. does my engine have a balance shaft I have to worry about? I need input.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:30 pm 
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Best off getting the factory manual. I've tried Haynes and Chilton's and while they are good for the amateur shadetree wrench, nothing compares to the OEM books.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:09 pm 
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haynes and chilton are all I need though. I just need some basic info and tourqe specs, problem is it dosn't look like either of them make a shop manual for the newer models. the only one I see listed for haynes is 1983-1987 colts. I picked up a couple hyundai manuals at the public library which have the info I need for the timing belt, that will do me for now. i'll have to check the dealership for a FSM price

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 Post subject: check Ebay
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:34 pm 
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I just looked at ebay and saw five haynes manuals ranging in price from $3 to $14. That's what I have used for two years now for exactly what your trying to do and it was sufficient. Obviously not as good a factory man. but a lot more available. By the way, the first thing you must do is break loose the Crank Bolt. Good Luck.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:09 pm 
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I've tried twice to break loose the crank pulley bolt without success. How do you immobilize the crank while you apply torque to the bolt?


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Chilton's part (8418) 20342 covers 90 - 93 Colt/Vistas and covers all US and Canadian models of Dodge Colt and Colt Vistas. It's listed under Chrysler. I think I bought mine from NAPA for around $18 US.

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 Post subject: Re: crank bolt
PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:49 pm 
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I've tried twice to break loose the crank pulley bolt without success. How do you immobilize the crank while you apply torque to the bolt?
I gotta do the same thing. Fortunately when i go to work monday i'll put my air impact on it. :wink: Other than that stick a punch through one of the holes in the cam pulley to imobilize it. Or you can get one of those wrenches that use a length of fan belt to grip it it. Either way, the crank pulley bolt is one tough bugger.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:32 am 
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hmm, parts store didn't show a listing for that. i'll have to go kick em some more

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:52 pm 
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Hopefully you have a manual trans. So you put the tranny in first gear and the car on the ground. Crank the wheels all the way left. Put your socket(1/2" drive) on the crank bolt and put a six inch extension through the hole in the wheel well to a 18" breaker bar. Put tension on the breaker bar and firmly tap the end of the bar with a hammer. The force you're exerting plus the vibration from the hammer should be enough to break the crank bolt loose. Good luck :)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:28 pm 
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The force you're exerting plus the vibration from the hammer should be enough to break the crank bolt loose. Good luck :)
If your lucky! Honda and Hyundai commonly use lock-tite. :-? Mitsubishi's are just plain TIGHT! I have broken the heads off of crank pulley bolts. :cry: When that happens you weld a big nut to the remaining stud and try again. Not fun.

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4g15 12valve 5spd.
4g37 TB, MAF & Injectors. 4g37 ECU
Ported & polished & custom CAI w/K&N filter
5* Cam retard, 7*Ignition advance
2-1/4" catback w/flowmaster muffler
89 GT brake and suspension swap
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:36 pm 
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umm, your scaring me now

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RIP- '92 Colt 200E, 12valve 4G15, 5spd.

'89 Colt 200E, stock 8valve 4G15, 5spd,


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Sorry :oops: Just explaining the worst case scenario. Air tools really are the way to go if your having trouble removing that bolt.

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04' Olds Alero
91' Colt GL hatchback
4g15 12valve 5spd.
4g37 TB, MAF & Injectors. 4g37 ECU
Ported & polished & custom CAI w/K&N filter
5* Cam retard, 7*Ignition advance
2-1/4" catback w/flowmaster muffler
89 GT brake and suspension swap
Lots of little s#@t


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 Post subject: timming belt carnk bolt
PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:31 pm 
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Hello!
before anything check how the crack pulley turn(clock wise or counter)
U need a 1/2 braker bar and 6 point socket.
put the socket and braker bar on the pulley
make sure its the opposite of the rotion of the engine/counter clock wise
and make sure the braker bar is not going to move.
jam it on the floor. and crank engine 1 time or 2 times
walla the bolt is loose :D


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:43 pm 
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Me I used a piece of metal of ¼inche tick by 2 feet long, I put 2 bolts on it(same size as the holes in the crank pulley) than I place it on the floor to be sure it doesn't move and I used a braker bar to unbolt it.

I used my feet to press on the bar because this bolt is thighten at 90Lbs

And never turn an engine in opposite direction (i think on a 4G15, the right direction is clockwise)


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