What track time do you have to run that requires clothing as a safety device
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| Author: | Andrew7dg [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:46 pm ] |
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Took my car to the scale today and the pig weighed 2350 pounds!!! I was hoping for 2000 pounds for such a small car... Now i can believe people saying that the 4 doors are lighter (as unreal as that sounds or maybe i should switch to a 2 door 4g mirage, or do the 4 door 4g models weigh less?) Why do these cars weigh so much? What can I do to decrease weight? I have the base model with very little options so the AC is gone, no power steering, no extra stereo equipment... If I had to take a torch to the car, what parts should I eliminate? |
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| Author: | CaptainTonus [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:45 pm ] |
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2350 is a pig? Are you kidding? There aren't a lot of production cars that weigh 2,000lbs or less off the showroom floor. Start stripping it if you want to save weight. |
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| Author: | 89Mirageman [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:33 pm ] |
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I don't think the 4g cars are too much lighter, not worth the hassle to swap everything over anyway. Plus the hatches look so much better. Various brackets, heat, AC, sound deadening and other odds and ends can removed to shed a few pounds. Again, in my opinion not really worth the effort unless its an all out track car. |
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| Author: | Evotistical [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:54 pm ] |
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2000 is just a feel good number. There have been people here who have gotten it down to 2100 lbs, but you need to tell us why your shedding the lbs. Taking off weight all willy nilly can cause some issues you may not have thought about, like weight distribution(very important when you want to go more directions than just forward. Our cars are just rolled and stmped 1/8 and 1/16th in steel with no real reinforcements besides the dash bar. Not much you can take off to get any real gain. The hood reinforcements are so slim that they cause the hood to bend when proped up, a carbon fiber hood actually weights about the same as the stock steel hood. Some have replaced the glass with lexan, you can replace every guage and warning light worth mentioning with a dell mini laptop and dsmlink v3. You can get an odessy (bad spelling) battery. You can remove all uneeded wires in the wire harness. You can remove the wipers. You can remove the shift knob. You can remove one of the side view mirrors. You can reduce the unsprung weight by getting lighter rims and aluminum lug nuts. You can remove the front and rear metal bumpers. You can remove the interior light. You can replace the headlights and tailights with lexan, you can get a smaller turbo. You can stop eating the cheeseburgers and take up heroin. You can install a fuelcell. You can race naked. You can strip the paint off your car. You can install a Helium balloon that says happy birthday. You can race on the equator. All of these things have there pluses and minuses(like safety and sanity) So choose carefully! |
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| Author: | Andrew7dg [ Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:44 pm ] |
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Great things to consider This was kind of a vent as I thought that the car was a little lighter... actually that was the weight with me in it, so the car without me weighs 2350-170+2180 which now doesn't sound so bad. I am trying to make a light car for going around the track. I am (pun kind of intended) weighing out the possibilities when building this car. For example for going around the track, would it be worth doing an AWD swap (maybe bumping me into another class) or leave it FWD to save weight and keeping me in a better class? I know that I can probably get this into the 11s on the dragstrip with the proper tires FWD. The reason is I found a FWD transmission that has 1st 2nd gear double syncro, stronger forks, LSD for a GREAT price but if I go this route I probably won't go AWD |
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| Author: | Evotistical [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:50 am ] |
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What track time do you have to run that requires clothing as a safety device
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| Author: | Andrew7dg [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:53 am ] |
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Quote: You can race naked. 
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| Author: | CaptainTonus [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:44 am ] |
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I always try to take a real healthy dump before I hit the racetrack. |
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| Author: | Aaron_37 [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:22 pm ] |
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Quote: I always try to take a real healthy dump before I hit the racetrack.
I'm really tempted to make a skidmark joke, but I think it would probably be in bad taste.  
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| Author: | 89Mirageman [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:41 pm ] |
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You guys are all comedians. 
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| Author: | Mechacode [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:57 pm ] |
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It's easier to just turn the boost up. Heavier car=easier to control at higher speeds. |
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| Author: | hi0npsi [ Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:20 pm ] |
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Anything over 300whp and these cars are too fast for their own good at stock weight. Add power until your butt puckers a little under WOT and call it a day. Tom |
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| Author: | aaronsbig16g [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:42 am ] |
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When my car was FWD with the cage I think it was at 2340 but my car is gutted to shit. |
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| Author: | CSM Shaun [ Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Car Weight |
My AWD swapped Colt GT weighed in at 2560 on two different scales. That was with tubular lower radiator support and rear engine mount, full wire tuck/delete/removal, aluminum fuel cell, no power anything(including steering), no AC and front bumper support removed. 2100lbs is a great weight for a car that can make over 300whp with a few bolt on parts. |
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