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Author:  galant1517 [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  axles
Is the only difference between the csm axles and the dsm axles the wheel bearing seal size? Or are there others? I'm asking specifically about the axles that utilize the intermediate shaft.
Author:  uweenukr [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:05 am ]
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the non turbo CSM axles use different lenght shafts and bearings. The turbo CSM has similarities to the DSM parts but are still different. There are possible ways around some of these part mismatches depending on what your trying to do and what parts you have at your disposal.

I suggest using the search button. Should be atleast 5 topics on this subject that would explain everything.
Author:  Mechacode [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:20 pm ]
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The dsm axles are of a different length. IIRC our one member who used a dsm axle had his differential explode into a few dozen pieces after awhile, may be a coincidence though.
Author:  uweenukr [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:54 pm ]
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I am using the DSM axles but I did have it re-grooved so it is shorter.
Author:  galant1517 [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:11 pm ]
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I guess what I'm really asking is if the dsm axles will work with the dsm fwd tranny and expo knuckles or if I have to use the csm axles and change the wheel bearing seal to fit. Has anyone found out exactly how much longer the dsm axles are?
Author:  uweenukr [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:37 pm ]
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I have the DSM axels and expo knuckles with the DSM FWD tranny. Pretty sure you just need the stock seals at that point (the expo and DSM seals should be the same IIRC)
Author:  galant1517 [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:15 am ]
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I am using the DSM axles but I did have it re-grooved so it is shorter.
But I have two sets of stock awd DSM/GVR4 front axles and would like to use them, you said your's are shortened. I'm just trying to gather parts so I can have as painless of a swap as possible. I've got a GVR4 engine, harness, ecu, seats, axles, brakes, and bunch of other shyza from a car I gutted a while ago, and ever since I've been dreaming of csm status.
Author:  Mechacode [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:25 am ]
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If you really want painless, go to carquest and buy the right axles brand new out the warehouse.
Author:  galant1517 [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:07 am ]
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If you really want painless, go to carquest and buy the right axles brand new out the warehouse.
Alright I get it.
Touche salesman.
Author:  uweenukr [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:18 am ]
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Make sure you confirm the parts are right when you get them by sizing them with the tranny/spindle you intend to use! They have a bad habit of shipping the wrong size axles in my area.
Author:  fastvtgsx [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:31 am ]
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The only part numbers that are available from Carquest in my area are through their worldpac supplier. They are brand new axles and a bit more money.

I've used dsm axles with dsm tranny in a csm. You just need the correct size wheel seal. They worked fine for me, I had plenty of track runs on them.
Author:  Incoltnito [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axles
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The dsm axles are of a different length. IIRC our one member who used a dsm axle had his differential explode into a few dozen pieces after awhile, may be a coincidence though.
Mister, a dowel pin from the flywheel flew out and ran straight through to the differential casing. It had nothing to do with me running with a DSM axle...it was a rusted out dowel pin that met Murphey's Law. I successfully ran this axle on the KM210 and F5M33 transmissions for thousands and thousands of miles.

I had to run the DSM axle because I needed the extra inch it provided over the turbo CSM axle, and this was after the Hyundai Elantra LCA conversion. I would assume the DSM axle would be too long in someone else's situation though.
Author:  Mechacode [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:21 am ]
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I said it may be a coincidence. :butthead: I've never heard of it happening to anyone else so far...
Author:  Jeremy Rothrock [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:24 pm ]
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I had to run the DSM axle because I needed the extra inch it provided over the turbo CSM axle, and this was after the Hyundai Elantra LCA conversion.
Sorry to thread jack, but are you saying that after the elantra LCA conversion, your turbo csm axles no longer worked? Just want to make sure as i just did this conversion but have yet to put the axles back. TIA
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