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 Post subject: Datalogger Fun
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 3:25 pm 
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I was wondering what program does the 1G Talon computer use and the '89 Colt computer? I want to create my own software for the datalogger but I have no experience with I/O on a serial port.

Any of you guys think you can help me out with that part?

I'm assuming that the program would just "listen in" on the serial port for any incoming data. How that data is captured or looks like I have no idea. String? Binary? I don't recall seeing any drivers when installing the existing datalogger software so I'm assuming you don't need one.

The software part is easy, I want to what a real-time application unlike the current free stuff that is available. I'd probably do it in Java so you can use it on a PDA/PC no problem. I'd do it in C/++ but I'm not very familiar with the GUI API.

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i have no idea wtf you just said :-\

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 6:26 pm 
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http://206.124.12.138/freeware.html


here you go this has the source code for Tunerstien on it.
and the link to the free download of tunerstien

then you just need the cable

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 6:54 pm 
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Wooo hoo!
and it's in java too =D

Well, not it's a matter of just combing the Player with the Logger.
This is going to be fun :)

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That is one harsh Webpage. I love my TMO logger! :D

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Well, not it's a matter of just combing the Player with the Logger.
This is going to be fun
ahh if checks should do very niceley :)

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That is one harsh Webpage. I love my TMO logger!
yep, I tried using the tunerstein cr@p, it was totally wothless. I too now use TMO, its a little bit cumbersome having to use a laptop, but the software is unbelievable. Absolutley everything you could want to know about whats happening with your engine is laid out very clearly in front of you and you have the ability to do diagnostic tests in addition to the logging of countless parameters.

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Well I'm looking at the Tunerstien code and theres lots that can be EASILY improved upon I may be picking up the project and doing some more on it I'm going to at least reverse engineer the protocol and post information on the datastream here for all to see.


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2003 2:37 pm 
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is the TMO software free? and is it realtime?

It would be a simple hack, instead of printing the data to a file like the Logger does now I would just send it off to the GUI (and a file, why not!) and draw pretty graphs in realtime (that's the important part)

but Berserko, If you could take the time to reverse engineer it we could make a much cleaner product, instead of: grab data -> some useless junk -> print like it is now, it can be: grab data -> log/display.

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Well once you have the structures you could do whatever you like with them for a sanity check of what works I first will use a terminal program log a whole data stream and my first attemp will be a simple utility to "parse" the data file and see your data but after I master that I will go much deeper into the project I was thinking about writing it in perl because it has all the serial IO stuff written in it already plug in the routines and i'm off to the races...


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JUST MAKE IT FREEWEAR!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: and five props to the orignal developers

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2003 6:11 am 
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Perl is not a very good idea. First off you'd have to download the interpreter and secondly it doesn't do GUI for Windows and how many people here run Linux? Most of these guys use their Palms and I'm not even sure if the interpreter is available for the Palm?

Java also has a very good serial I/O package. And a lot of third party ones exist as well (ex: javax.comm)

And the reverse engineering part is easy. Just find the part where it writes to the file and go backwards until you find where it got the data from. I'm 99% sure the data is saved is plain text I doubt this program has a proprietary format.

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Well there is perl for windows and I know perl and I'm writing the program I couldn't care less if no one used my program I'm mainly developing it for me and no there is no perl for palm...


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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2003 3:30 pm 
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whatever happened to a sense of community? :(

I thought we were in this together :P

Do as you wish, just send me a copy when you're finished and I'll make it user friendly so everyone can use it hassle free.

and don't worry summit1.6, it'll be free =D

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heh i really dont care if you charge for it... but the orig softwear devolopers lawers might mind

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