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Author:  Andrew7dg [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

I just pulled these off of my DSM that I am about to sell. I would like to put these on the Hatch.

For the front I would have to change the top strut plate and it should be a bolt in correct?
For the rear... Add a spacer onto the bottom of the strut of some sort?

Would these work pretty well even though the car weighs 1000lb less?

Author:  galant1517 [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

If you can get some stock rear springs (from an AWD 1G) the car should sit close to level. IIRC the sportline series drops the 1G about two inches which is what the rear strut from the 1G will automatically drop the rear of your hatch.

Author:  CaptainTonus [ Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

Will be way way too low in the rear with this setup.

Author:  Andrew7dg [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

Ok so I need to modify where it sits on the rear end or modify the strut

Author:  89Mirageman [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

If you could make some sort of adapter to lift the bottom mounting point that should work. An awd rear strut with dsm lowering springs is probably going to be 4-5" too short for a csm.

I would just use the lowering springs on the front and find some stock awd rear springs and go from there.

Author:  CaptainTonus [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

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I would just use the lowering springs on the front and find some stock awd rear springs and go from there.
Agree 100%. Stock 1g AWD springs will put the car sitting perfect. I have a pair of them for same if you're interested, PM me.

Author:  Andrew7dg [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

I know this is rather an old topic however I am very interested in seeing how this is going to handle when the swap is complete

I am figuring I am going to have to do something like you did captain and make raisers in the back or I will be dealing with this

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So I am going to try to weld some brackets onto the rear like you did

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That way I can put any AWD suspension in the car later not having to mix match.

Unless there is a reason I should use Rear AWD stock springs because of spring rate.

I am trying to go for a really good handling CSM this year.

I have a good set of street tires on there, what else can I do to help the suspension handle?

I heard that the chassis flexes a lot. Strut bars?

Are there any polyurethane bushings for these cars?

Author:  galant1517 [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

Strut bars will help, because you can't have a tin can on wheels (read: really lightweight car) and have things braced all that well from the factory. Bracing simply adds weight. There was a thread posted not long ago about using a fwd 1G rear aftermarket sway bar. I can't remember the poster though. Guy said it helped a lot.

Author:  CaptainTonus [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

Quote:
I know this is rather an old topic however I am very interested in seeing how this is going to handle when the swap is complete

I am figuring I am going to have to do something like you did captain and make raisers in the back or I will be dealing with this

So I am going to try to weld some brackets onto the rear like you did

That way I can put any AWD suspension in the car later not having to mix match.

Unless there is a reason I should use Rear AWD stock springs because of spring rate.

I am trying to go for a really good handling CSM this year.

I have a good set of street tires on there, what else can I do to help the suspension handle?

I heard that the chassis flexes a lot. Strut bars?

Are there any polyurethane bushings for these cars?
Yeah, if you want to run the AWD struts with AWD lowering springs you will have to build something like that for the rear, otherwise it will be WAY too low back there. Honestly, if you're going for a "really good handling CSM", this probably isn't going to give you what you're looking for, but it will be better than the stock suspension. I've heard these cars benefit a lot from strut bars front and rear, and a larger rear sway bar (there isn't one at all from the factory) helps a lot too with reducing understeer. There are bushing companies out there, but not in the US, you would have to have it imported here. I believe Tein is a distributor for SuperPro bushings, and they sell bushings for our cars, but they don't sell a complete kit so you have to piece it all together.

Author:  Andrew7dg [ Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

I was the one who put the rear sway bar in the back of the car and it does help. I don't know if it is a TRUE sway bar from what I can tell it is more of a brace so things don't flex as easily. From my handling teachings, if the car is under steering, a larger rear sway bar is needed for the back and keep the front stock. This creates more over steer in the car.

I hope the Sport lines will make somewhat of a difference.

Some recent developments happen. I was going to sell my 1990 Eclipse, thats what the Sportlines were sitting on however the deal went through and now I am thinking that the sportlines will go back onto the eclipse. HOWEVER the stock DSM springs might now go onto the Scummit.

I am thinking it would be worth the time to do this modification so I could switch AWD shocks and springs.

Author:  tundabolt [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

any update??

Author:  ScottSpecV [ Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DSM AWD Sportlines w/ KYB AGX

This is what a car looks like with KYB AGXs (for a AWD) and Tenzo springs (for an AWD) on all four corners:

The rear end was DUMPED. lol.
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