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OK guys, I am getting very close to dropping the engine back in the car but I still don't have a tranny. There is a 92 FWD Expo at one of the local junkyards with a 5 speed tranny in it. Its my understanding these have the large bell housing and the larger flywheel and clutch like the turbo dsm tranny. I'm wondering how the gearing will be compared to a KM210 or an F5M33? These wagons came with a SOHC 2.4 with a little over 100hp but I think it will be strong enough for a turbo engine. Sadly there are no turbo dsm's in the yard at this time except for a 92 laser with 200k on it and I think I'll pass on that one.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

Something tells me you're gonna have to be the first person to try this.

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

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Well I know the tranny will work with the 4G63 because the wagons use a narrow block 4G64. I also think this particular tranny has the csm style shift levers but I'd have to look at it again to be sure. I was basically asking about the gear ratios, wondering how they would compare to the KM210 or the F5M33?

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

I don't think anyone knows what the gear ratios are, which is why I say throw one in there and see what happens! Haha.

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91 GSX - 511fwhp and 352 lb/ft 25psi 110 octane, 7.68 @ 95.9mph 1/8th 21psi 91 octane, 11.93 @ 112.9mph, 117.7mph best trap speed, 20psi 91 octane
98 Volvo S70 T5 - DD

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If you have to tear it down:

http://www.lilevo.com/mirage/Manuals/FW ... %2022A.pdf

I was hoping that it would have more than final gear ratio mentioned as well, but that will give you an idea of final drive RPM anyways.

92 Vista/Summit Wagon not sure if the Expo had the same one I would think so.
F5M31
Gear ratio:
1st 3.166
2nd 1.833
3rd 1.240
4th 0.896
5th 0.731
Reverse 3.166
Final reduction ratio 4.322
Speedometer gear ratio (driven/drive) 28/36
Oil quantity (qts) 2.4

Here is the link to KM210 ratios:
http://www.4g61t.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... B2=2&por=1

This is interesting too. Read almost at the bottom under "Rated torque capacities"...
http://www.teamrip.com/twin_disc_clutch_info.html

Thanks man, those are some interesting figures on the Team Rip page. According to that the KM210 is quite a bit weaker than the turbo dsm tranny.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual

what did the f5m51 come in? i want that torque capacity

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If speed kills, then i shoulda been dead awhile ago. There is no such thing as "Too Much Power". There is no excuse for a lost race. Do you view the rev limiter as a fun limiter?or as a shift point? And we all know, more boost=more fun.

http://www.eautoworks.com/product-BampM-182368.htm
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalog ... speed.html <- very large and handy listing here

MITSUBISHI LANCER and LANCER EVOLUTION 4 cyl 2.0L W5M51 2003-on Aluminum case, stamped - Lancer Evolution only - All Wheel Drive W5M51XXXX on front case

My 92 Galant GSR had this transmission in it. Its my understanding (through searching) that it was found overseas in the N/A (high HP) 1G DSM's as well as some of the upper crust Galants.

In USDM-land, they can be found in 1G & 2G mounting styles in the following models:

92 Galant (DOHC)
94-98? Galant (4G64)
2G "DSM" w/ 4G64
Colt/Summit/Expo w/4G64

When I bought my GSR, the trans was junk in it. I replaced it w/ one from a summit & can confirm they have the bigger bellhousing on them.

Hope this helps.
-Shawn

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Well I ended up finding a low mileage 1g dsm turbo tranny but I might still grab this tranny from the yard in the near future if they don't crush the wagon. Thanks for all the help guys and I will be sure to update this if I get it.

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93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV 1.8/manual
95 Eagle Summit DL Coupe 1.5/manual
01 Mitsubishi Mirage ES Sedan 1.8/manual