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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:26 pm 
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I have a buddy working on making me some delrin bushings for the front control arm bushing, he can make some more if anyone is interested. He also made me a set of shifter bushings as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:32 pm 
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Front LCA Non-Turbo bushing??
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Front LCA Turbo bushing??

Any Caster offset ??


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:05 pm 
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Wrong bushings, he can only make these http://www.superpro.com.au/superpro-parts/SPF1160K

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:10 pm 
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Can somebody spell out for me if there is a bushing for the front of my lca im confused. So I can use the elantra lca bushing rear and its the same for my non turbo?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:35 pm 
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to clear up any confusion in ordering the bushings, i present this handy little guide.

turbo/GSR cars would order:
SPF-1160K
SPF-1714K

and non-turbo/non-GSR cars would order
SPF-1160K
SPF-1140K

SPF-1141K, SPF-1142K and SPF-1142AK are all various versions of the non-turbo/non-GSR rear control arm bushings.
41K increases passenger side caster and leaves the drivers side standard
42K increases passenger side caster and decreases drivers side caster
42AK increases caster on both sides
and that's what i got from the superpro site, pretty much word for word.

if you want to play with different rear bushings on a turbo/GSR car, then you want to use these part #s:
SPF-1714K = 0/standard offset
SPF-2025K = +1/single offset
SPF-2026K = +2/double offset
information for the different rear bushings for the turbo/GSR car is a little lacking compared to the non-turbo stuff, so i only copied down what superpro had written about them in their catalog.

cars using elantra control arms order:
SPF-1870K
SPF-1140K

and the turbo/GSR/elantra sway-bar bushings are:
SPF-1875K
is this what I need?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:02 pm 
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to clear up any confusion in ordering the bushings, i present this handy little guide.

turbo/GSR cars would order:
SPF-1160K
SPF-1714K

and non-turbo/non-GSR cars would order
SPF-1160K
SPF-1140K

SPF-1141K, SPF-1142K and SPF-1142AK are all various versions of the non-turbo/non-GSR rear control arm bushings.
41K increases passenger side caster and leaves the drivers side standard
42K increases passenger side caster and decreases drivers side caster
42AK increases caster on both sides
and that's what i got from the superpro site, pretty much word for word.

if you want to play with different rear bushings on a turbo/GSR car, then you want to use these part #s:
SPF-1714K = 0/standard offset
SPF-2025K = +1/single offset
SPF-2026K = +2/double offset
information for the different rear bushings for the turbo/GSR car is a little lacking compared to the non-turbo stuff, so i only copied down what superpro had written about them in their catalog.

cars using elantra control arms order:
SPF-1870K
SPF-1140K

and the turbo/GSR/elantra sway-bar bushings are:
SPF-1875K
is this what I need?
Base non turbo cars take these

SPF-1160K
SPF-1140K

The 1160K is a pair of front lower front bushings, and the 1140K is standard caster front lower rear bushings.

If you have special caster requirements, then follow this guide below when ordering your 114*K series bushings
(SPF-1141K, SPF-1142K and SPF-1142AK are all various versions of the non-turbo/non-GSR rear control arm bushings.
41K increases passenger side caster and leaves the drivers side standard
42K increases passenger side caster and decreases drivers side caster
42AK increases caster on both sides)

The 114*K bushings are big and "strap" to the bottom of the car with a plate and two big bolts. They look like this:
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:58 pm 
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Thank you Coltsfan!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:29 pm 
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Why would one need to increase the caster on one side only? Or increase it on one side and decrease it on the other?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:07 pm 
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Why would one need to increase the caster on one side only? Or increase it on one side and decrease it on the other?
Alignment issues, oval track racing, VIP, helaflush, etc...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:06 pm 
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I also found this which contains a part number for a panhard bar bushing(s)

A list of bushes for the GSR follows:CA, CB Sedan /88 - 9/1992
Front Control Arm Lower - Front Bush SPF1160K 1 4B,2T
Front Control Arm Lower - Inner Rear Bush SPF1714K 1 Standard settings "CB GSR Only" 2B,2T,2S,2W
Front Control Arm Lower - Inner Rear Bush SPF2025K 1 Single offset, "CB GSR Only" 2B,2T,2S,2W
Front Control Arm Lower - Inner Rear Bush SPF2026K 1 Double Offset, "CB GSR Only" 2B,2T,2S,2W
Front Sway Bar Link Bush Kit SPF2092BK 1 8B
Rear Panhard Rod Bush SPF0427K 2 1B,1T
Rear Sway Bar Link Bush Kit SPF2092BK 1 8B
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:25 pm 
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I've been running the increased caster on both sides. No issues, feels fine. The steering wheel is supposed to snap back to center quicker with more caster and be more secure at high speed.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:32 pm 
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Apparently you can get them straight from Moog now on their main site. I'm going to put an order in.

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Quote from the first page, that still works.
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So, I visited the link above as my curiosity for what parts cost, while having time to think about the car during the offseason, has piqued.

Went into their price listing:
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SPF-1141K, SPF-1142K and SPF-1142AK are all various versions of the non-turbo/non-GSR rear control arm bushings.
NON-TURBO CONTROL ARMS
$74.00 US SPF 1140 K HYUNDAI LANTRA 1600CC FR LWR I - standard caster
$74.00 US SPF 1141 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER REAR BUSH - Increases passenger side caster and leaves the drivers side standard - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$75.00 US SPF 1142 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER REAR BUSH - Increases passenger side caster and decreases drivers side caster - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$75.00 US SPF 1142 AK FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER REAR BUSH - Increases caster on both sides - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$54.00 US SPF 1160 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER FRONT BUSH - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSHINGS = 4 pieces, AND TWO SLEEVES PER BAG)

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If you want to play with different rear bushings on a turbo/GSR car, then you want to use these part #s:
TURBO CONTROL ARMS
$158.00 US SPF 1714 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER R BUSH - "0" OFFSET CHANGE, STANDARD OFFSET - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$178.00 US SPF 2025 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER REAR BUSH - "+1" OFFSET CHANGE, SINGLE OFFSET - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$162.00 US SPF 2026 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER REAR BUSH - "+2" OFFSET CHANGE, DOUBLE OFFSET - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH PER BAG)
$54.00 US SPF 1160 K FR LWR CTRL ARM INNER FRONT BUSH - ORDER 1 PER CAR (TWO BUSH = 4 pieces, AND TWO SLEEVES PER BAG)


These are the FWD Panhard Rod bushings, regardless of turbo or non-turbo:

$29.00 US SPF 0427 K HYUNDAI/TOYOTA PANHARD ROD - THIS IS THE PANHARD ROD BUSHING SET FOR C50/C60 FWD CHASSIS CARS, ORDER 2 PER CAR - BECAUSE IT CONTAINS ONE SLEEVE, 1 BUSHING PER BAG (EACH BAG DOES 1/2 OF THE PANHARD BAR)

Turbo models and Elantra sway bars use a different link and do not require bushings for the end links.

These are the base model sway bar bushings for the links:

$22.00 US SPF 2092 BK / SPF 2092B-4K (OLD #) UNIVERSAL LINK PIN BUSH - C52A/C62A BASE MODEL SWAY BAR LINK BUSHINGS, ORDER 1 PER CAR - CONTAINS 4 BUSHINGS TO SANDWICH THE BAR ENDS

Turbo/Elantra/GSR Sway Bar to Chassis bushings are as follows:

$23.00 US SPF1875-20K - Lists as Hyundai front sway bar to chassis. - ORDER 1 PER CAR - CONTAINS 2 SPLIT BUSHING PAIRS TO SANDWICH THE BAR


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:23 pm 
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I own a small machinery company and think about making some tools to produce a small series of PU bushings for the C53/Mirage Turbo.
I want to pour the control-arm bushings, the rear axle main bushings and the bushings for the Panhard-strut. Maybe for the KYB shocks, too. I dont know if it would make sense to make the engine-moints out of PU, too.
Hardness of the PU would be ~ 90 Shore...
Any suggestions, what also could be wort to be made and isn't available?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:10 pm 
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Ralliart made bushings for most of the Mitsu line, in medium to very hard rubbers, but not urethane from what I have seen. Usually they took bushings that had "windows" and poured them in a solid form, with maybe a performance stiffer rubber option also.
Many bushings made for Galant vr4's and Eclipse's (90-94) will cross over to the Colt/Mirage C50/60/70/80 platform.

Rear main axle bushings I have never seen offered, but would be quite an interesting thought.
Engine mounts are available in urethane from American vendors, as I have a set. They are not ideal in some regards - sleeves that are not proper length to allow/keep the mounts from crushing, but maybe it was just my complied set that was in this way. I got it second hand. I had to use some washers to "shim" the sleeves to make them tight and maintain component alignment on the transmission case top bracket, front engine mount and rear engine mount = good, timing belt mount = good.

I think we have a thread detailing which mounts/part numbers for urethane people used to fit the standard mounts after removing the rubber and surround sleeve that held them in place.

If you can get the urethane to machine properly to tolerance (I read somewhere that it was a tricky art form), then have at it.

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