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A Phantom Grip doesn't work just as well as a $1,000 LSD, but it will work fine for what you want to do with it. I've heard the LSD inserts can damage the diff if you get wheel hop, but I don't know if that's true. There have been a few guys on this board who've used Phantom Grips with a lot of success and who swear by them, and others who don't like them.

I have one in my Mirage tranny and I get zero wheel hop, but I also have poly mounts and full suspension. I can say it def spins both tires and i think with out it I would have a really hard time keeping it straight.

All in all, it's good if you are on a budget, but if you can afford it, buy a real diff.

It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow.

Thats my question too...I dont care that much about straight lines... I need a car that can turn well, so if the Phantom is not going to turn it doesnt make sense i buy it...so can it turn well?

I have poly mounts too...but I dont buy the suspension yet... I was thinking of GCC coilovers with Konis...Is there any better suspension that can work? Like Tein, HKS etc...built for the car...or could I modify like an Eclipse or 4th Gen Mirage Suspension and make it work?

It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow.

If you're into handling AT ALL, do not get a Phantom Grip.

Um, why to you say that? I've had mine for a full season, and driving normal one would not notice it. It is only driving under boost exiting a corner that the car wants to go wide. But this is while leaving black stripes! What is the term for this, fwd drifting? Anyway, I don't regret installing it, and with regular driving the car is benign.

It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow.

I just got mine from Shep today in the mail..

Author:	sketzshane [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:25 pm ]
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Does this really work? I am building a race car with a low budget and I realise that u have Phantom Grip LSD for the FWD Eclipse Gearbox which I have in my car...and I need to make the car limited and all the other LSD are US$1000 upwards.... What in the consensus...it works just as well or not? Thanks in advance

Author:	CaptainTonus [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:37 pm ]
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A Phantom Grip doesn't work just as well as a $1,000 LSD, but it will work fine for what you want to do with it. I've heard the LSD inserts can damage the diff if you get wheel hop, but I don't know if that's true. There have been a few guys on this board who've used Phantom Grips with a lot of success and who swear by them, and others who don't like them.

Author:	sketzshane [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:40 pm ]
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Quote: A Phantom Grip doesn't work just as well as a $1,000 LSD, but it will work fine for what you want to do with it. I've heard the LSD inserts can damage the diff if you get wheel hop, but I don't know if that's true. There have been a few guys on this board who've used Phantom Grips with a lot of success and who swear by them, and others who don't like them. thanks i will keep this in mind

Author:	MoWGLi [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:43 pm ]
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I have one in my Mirage tranny and I get zero wheel hop, but I also have poly mounts and full suspension. I can say it def spins both tires and i think with out it I would have a really hard time keeping it straight. All in all, it's good if you are on a budget, but if you can afford it, buy a real diff.

Author:	t2fastalon [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:03 pm ]
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I just got mine from Shep today in the mail..

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Author:	sTYZ [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:39 pm ]
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It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow.

Author:	sketzshane [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:27 am ]
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Quote: I have one in my Mirage tranny and I get zero wheel hop, but I also have poly mounts and full suspension. I can say it def spins both tires and i think with out it I would have a really hard time keeping it straight. All in all, it's good if you are on a budget, but if you can afford it, buy a real diff. I have poly mounts too...but I dont buy the suspension yet... I was thinking of GCC coilovers with Konis...Is there any better suspension that can work? Like Tein, HKS etc...built for the car...or could I modify like an Eclipse or 4th Gen Mirage Suspension and make it work?

Author:	sketzshane [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:29 am ]
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Quote: It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow. Thats my question too...I dont care that much about straight lines... I need a car that can turn well, so if the Phantom is not going to turn it doesnt make sense i buy it...so can it turn well?

Author:	CaptainTonus [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:22 pm ]
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Quote: Thats my question too...I dont care that much about straight lines... I need a car that can turn well, so if the Phantom is not going to turn it doesnt make sense i buy it...so can it turn well? If you're into handling AT ALL, do not get a Phantom Grip.

Author:	MoWGLi [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:08 pm ]
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Quote: I have poly mounts too...but I dont buy the suspension yet... I was thinking of GCC coilovers with Konis...Is there any better suspension that can work? Like Tein, HKS etc...built for the car...or could I modify like an Eclipse or 4th Gen Mirage Suspension and make it work? I have the Groundcontrol coilovers on my car, but with KYB AGX's. I love the set up and I think it feel great. As for the struts, everyone is going to say something diffrent so it is really up to personal choice. Quote: It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow. I would'nt know about in the snow seeing as my car will never see it. The corners are a little better, but i still get massive wheel spin and understeer. Even with a decent amount of camber on the front end. But then again, my car is not set up for corners, just street/highway pulls.

Author:	quikgt [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:28 pm ]
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Quote: If you're into handling AT ALL, do not get a Phantom Grip. Um, why to you say that? I've had mine for a full season, and driving normal one would not notice it. It is only driving under boost exiting a corner that the car wants to go wide. But this is while leaving black stripes! What is the term for this, fwd drifting? Anyway, I don't regret installing it, and with regular driving the car is benign.

Author:	CaptainTonus [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:32 pm ]
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Quote: Um, why to you say that? I've had mine for a full season, and driving normal one would not notice it. It is only driving under boost exiting a corner that the car wants to go wide. But this is while leaving black stripes! What is the term for this, fwd drifting? Anyway, I don't regret installing it, and with regular driving the car is benign. I'm just going off what I heard. I was under the impression that it was only something to be used for drag racing--going straight. If it works well for you in the turns too then more power to it.

Author:	MR HYDE [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:59 pm ]
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Quote: It helps on launch but how is it when turning? I was told it makes the tires squeek and that they make the steering shit in the rain/snow. I had a PG in my daily driver and I loved it. There wasnt a day that Mr Hyde didnt see 100 mph. Phantom Grip in the rain was great. I always had grip. PG turning was great. Even tight radius turns. A WELDED DIFF sucks for tight radius turns... The best thing about PG.... When you upgrade to a 2.0 and are putting down some decent power.... 3rd gear pulls on the highway wont pull across two lanes..... You'll roast tires, but in a straight line!!

Author:	sketzshane [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:35 am ]
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thanks everyone for the info...I guess the only way i know its to try it....what i will do is buy a phantom grip and try it.. esp if i get it at an excellent price... if it does work to my liking i will keep it...ortherwise i can sell it to a drag racer and buy a quaiffe...my best friend is a mechanic so we work on the car for free so it doesnt matter if the box has to be dropped 10 times...thank u all again

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Author:	boostfreak [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:03 pm ]
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Quote: I just got mine from Shep today in the mail.. And, you got hosed. If anyone wants a good price ont he LSD inset, shoot me a PM. If there is enough interest-perhaps a gorup buy will be in order?