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| Author: | _JAY [ Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | LSD for autocross? |
Okay, so I'm going to source a manual gearbox today. Wondering if I should find an LSD for it? I've heard they make the steering heavy and cause the car to plough in corners... Then again the prospect of nice, even 2WD instead of 1WD really appeals to me. So, do any of you autocrossers have LSDs? Are they worth it on an FWD or do they mess with the steering too much? - J |
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| Author: | Guest [ Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:27 am ] |
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I have one. I didn't notice that the car felt heavier. They do cause the car to plow if you enter a corner off throttle. Get on the gas and the plowing goes away. If you get one, you'll have to adjust your driving for it. |
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| Author: | mirage_turbo89 [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:32 pm ] |
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jason, do you have an insert or a actual differential, like a Quiaffe? |
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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:23 pm ] |
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I have a quaife. |
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| Author: | chet [ Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:04 pm ] |
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what types of limited slip differentials are available for the 89 colt/mirage transmissions.... i'm assuming quaiffe...is there anyone else like kaaz, ats, or an OEM unit in the european/japanese cars? i'm not interested in a phantom grip. |
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| Author: | _JAY [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:52 am ] |
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Out of curiosity, how does a Phantom Grip or B&M adapter stack up to the "real thing"? 'Coz I AM interested in a Phantom Grip. I'm cheap. BTW the only OEM unit I know of came in the CC-chassis (4th gen, like the one under my username on the left) Asti coupe or Cyborg hatchback with 4G92 MIVEC, or in the Evo I-III RS. You'll have to import it from Japan, Australia, or New Zealand. If your Talon is FWD the MIVEC box should work (it's a variant of the F5M22), if you have AWD get the Evo one. - J |
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| Author: | dsmracer [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:34 am ] |
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I have a Phantom Grip, and it works great. Haven't had a chance to really put it through its paces since the engine crapped out. But basically as usual, anything for a 1G DSM diff will work. Rule of thumb is if youre road racing or auto-x, get a helical diff like the Quaife. If you're dragging and you want the best 60 ft times you can get, go with the clutch types like the KAAZ or the conversion kits like the B&M and Phantom Grip. |
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| Author: | chet [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:41 pm ] |
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ok... what about a 1g fwd talon/laser/eclipse transmission...did they come with OEM lsd's...? it seems like this would be the easiest solution...although i might just spend money on a quaiffe. |
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| Author: | J J [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:35 am ] |
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Quote: I have a Phantom Grip, and it works great. Haven't had a chance to really put it through its paces since the engine crapped out. But basically as usual, anything for a 1G DSM diff will work. Rule of thumb is if youre road racing or auto-x, get a helical diff like the Quaife. If you're dragging and you want the best 60 ft times you can get, go with the clutch types like the KAAZ or the conversion kits like the B&M and Phantom Grip.
I think quaife is better for drag racing since it is strong and autotech will fix/replace it even if used at the strip. Also works well for autox etc.For road racing I would go with a LSD instead since a the quaife wont work if one drive wheel comes off the ground. Also, LSDs can be configured to suite your specific application. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:38 am ] |
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The quaife will actually give up with one wheel anywhere close to being off the ground. It demands a different driving style. Works great when you get the hang of it though. |
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| Author: | styler93gsx [ Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:35 am ] |
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Good information. I've been wanting to have this discussion for a while but never seem to remember to poast it. |
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| Author: | VWDSMGUY [ Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:28 am ] |
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I have a Quaife with like 320 WHP and this car is HAIRY to drive. You can't tell where it's going during heavy power in a curve. In a straight line with good street tires sometimes it scares me, with torque steer, in 3rd and 4th. It feels like the power is being transferred back and forth as one of the wheels slightly losses traction. As the speed gets up in the 80 - 100 MPH thats hairy. With slicks in the 1/4 its just fine. It's not just me, I've heard this from others. |
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| Author: | tooslo [ Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:45 pm ] |
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What kind of set up would be best to eliminated 1 wheel spin but still be street driveable- without the clicking and sutch? |
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| Author: | tdrrally [ Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | lds s |
i am looing into a groupe buy on a lsd phantom grip b&m let me know which way you want to go ed esi-r@juno.com |
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| Author: | bluebeast [ Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:06 pm ] |
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I had a 96 galant s that had a LSD. I would assume this came from factory as the car was totaly stock when I bought it. Being that it had the 2.4 in it I was going to look in junk yards for one to use in my colt. this could be a cheap solution to you question. Does anyone know the gearing the 5 speed 2.4 had? |
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