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 Post subject: 4g61t dyno's
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:01 pm 
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Basically I am wanting to gather a little infomation from the people who are running 4g61t's and what sort of numbers they were/are making.

Please list all power related mods, and motor condition if known.

I'll go first for an example of what I'm looking for.

Stock bottom end 4g61t, rebuilt w/5K
4g67t head, ported & polished exhaust ports.
HKS 272's, stock springs, head gasket, and bolts.
60 mm t/b on ported 4g67t intake manifold
Slowboy racing cast exhaust manifold, ported and polished
Tial 38 mm W/G
PTE 50 trim BB .76 A/R exh
Evo 560 cc inj
Walbro 190 w/ 30 amp re-wire
AFC 2, 90 DSM turbo ECU
Evo 8 FMIC, 2.5" IC piping
2G MAF, HKS SS BOV
3" turbo back exhaust
24 psi on 91 oct pump gas

Uncorrected numbers where 307.94 whp/ 248.06 wtq @ 24 psi. Elevation at the dyno is right at 6,000 ft so I would venture a more accurate correction around 1.17 for those who are curious to calculate it.

Edit: I should also note that the target A/F was at 12.0 : 1 but after 6,500 rpms I was at 12.5 : 1 due to lack of fuel pump. 4* base timing.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:28 pm 
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Great job bobby. Jason is going to fire up his new 50 trim tomorrow. He is on a stock 2.0L though. So we will see what can be had with dsmlink and E85.

I think with your weight you have him beat. I am shooting for over 25psi though.

Going to the track before it closes? I know you have those slicks.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:50 pm 
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I've installed a 255 pump and want to up the injector size to run e85. I got a keydriver chip but my eprom ecu decided to fry itself right before I sent it out to get socketed and new caps...frustrating. I want 350-360 uncorrected whp, or till this turbo is max'd out.

I wonder if I have the highest whp 4g61t as it sits.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:08 pm 
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If you need to borrow a 90 eprom, mine is socketed and ready to go.

560's are only good for 31lbs/min at 100% duty cycle on E85. 25lbs/min at 80%.

I think currently you have the highest known out there. But just to let you know, I am going to build my car around the 4G61 as well. And if or when it goes I will throw a 2.0L together. So watch out Jack. I hope by spring time to have some numbers.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:48 pm 
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This was last year on a Mustang dyno.

stock 4g61t top & bottom end 250k(155,000 miles)
1g cams on stock h/g & valves
60mm TB with Cyclone Intake(non dual runner)
650 injectors
walbro 190
3" GM maf draw thru with maf-t v2.01
ported 2g ex/m & ported 2g O2
3" mandrel exhaust, hi-flo cat, slp muffler 3" inlet 2 2.5" outlets
ebay FMIC
evo 16g, ported by sbr
stock BOV, all hard piping
catch can
25 psi, 94 pump
280 whp--256 tq!!

shortly after this the original h/g blew while trying to do a burnout with sticky tires on new pavement=not good :-? So now I'm on a completly built 2.0. If I had known there was a problem with the used 2.0 I paid good money for, I just would have rebuilt the '61t.


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 Post subject: Re: 4g61t dyno's
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:19 pm 
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Quote:
Basically I am wanting to gather a little infomation from the people who are running 4g61t's and what sort of numbers they were/are making.

Please list all power related mods, and motor condition if known.

I'll go first for an example of what I'm looking for.

Stock bottom end 4g61t, rebuilt w/5K
4g67t head, ported & polished exhaust ports.
HKS 272's, stock springs, head gasket, and bolts.
60 mm t/b on ported 4g67t intake manifold
Slowboy racing cast exhaust manifold, ported and polished
Tial 38 mm W/G
PTE 50 trim BB .76 A/R exh
Evo 560 cc inj
Walbro 190 w/ 30 amp re-wire
AFC 2, 90 DSM turbo ECU
Evo 8 FMIC, 2.5" IC piping
2G MAF, HKS SS BOV
3" turbo back exhaust
24 psi on 91 oct pump gas

Uncorrected numbers where 307.94 whp/ 248.06 wtq @ 24 psi. Elevation at the dyno is right at 6,000 ft so I would venture a more accurate correction around 1.17 for those who are curious to calculate it.

Edit: I should also note that the target A/F was at 12.0 : 1 but after 6,500 rpms I was at 12.5 : 1 due to lack of fuel pump. 4* base timing.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:19 pm 
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Small side note: for comparison what type of car and drag coefficient do you use for your cars? The guys at KVR used a 91 Honda Civic drag coefficient for my car IIRC.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:20 pm 
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If you need to borrow a 90 eprom, mine is socketed and ready to go.

560's are only good for 31lbs/min at 100% duty cycle on E85. 25lbs/min at 80%.

I think currently you have the highest known out there. But just to let you know, I am going to build my car around the 4G61 as well. And if or when it goes I will throw a 2.0L together. So watch out Jack. I hope by spring time to have some numbers.

Steven
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:03 pm 
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I'm not stupid. Your stupid. And ugly.

Hea, I can wish right. I have a running engine, might as well use it.

Steven

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:29 pm 
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Its a good thing that there are a lot of Emoticons or Davis wouldn't be able to communicate. :finga: Read that bitch.

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SOLD to the fastest shifting hermaphrodite in CO


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:36 pm 
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That is some funny shit. I like it Bobby. When do I get a ride?

Steven

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:46 pm 
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Just need to get it through emissions and get the exhaust finished up before it see's any real street time. I'm actually thinking of running a 50/50 mix of e85/91 oct with 850 cc inj. Should be able to run close to 30 psi with proper tuning, maybe more.

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Turning a 4g61t into 1595 cc's of FURY!
10.995 @ 134.44 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZXvcvzuWGQ

SOLD to the fastest shifting hermaphrodite in CO


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:30 am 
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Small side note: for comparison what type of car and drag coefficient do you use for your cars? The guys at KVR used a 91 Honda Civic drag coefficient for my car IIRC.

Shrug? :lol: I'm curious to know why my numbers are so low, but I suspect boost leak. I need someone to analyse my .DBA file from my Palm - ie run Palm Emulator or upload to their Palm and see what is on the up and up with my numbers from my first Dyno run. 8) I didn't break but the numbers are low for a modded 2.0T. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:36 am 
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Small side note: for comparison what type of car and drag coefficient do you use for your cars? The guys at KVR used a 91 Honda Civic drag coefficient for my car IIRC.

Shrug? :lol: I'm curious to know why my numbers are so low, but I suspect boost leak. I need someone to analyse my .DBA file from my Palm - ie run Palm Emulator or upload to their Palm and see what is on the up and up with my numbers from my first Dyno run. 8) I didn't break but the numbers are low for a modded 2.0T. :lol:
I missed this, where is the post with your Dyno #'s? :o


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:08 am 
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New post to follow in another thread, but every set of AA batteries I have in the house won't keep my camera alive long enough to download the 1 picture of my 2 dyno plot sheets. :evil:

Wade, what model of car do they test your Colt under?


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