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Author:  deco_will_fly [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  make it a twin, my 2nd gen 4g63t build

Ok so I found it. A 6 bolt 4g63t from a 91 laser. It needs to be rebuilt, but the block is good, and so is the head. I spent 6 hours today with my girl frind, (who by the way was awesome) pulling a motor from a rolled car. The cam gears were both busted from the roll over so I had to check every part of the motor befor bringing it home. Well all is good. This is going to be a rushed buid so I will be taking a lot of pics along the way. Thanks ahead of time to everyone for your help and knowlage.

Author:  miragesist [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:00 pm ]
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good luck, and if theres something i can help you let me know

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:01 pm ]
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With a lot of crap on my head about this swap I ask, wiring? I was thinking about taking the wire harness from the laser I got the motor from, along with the ecu pin out, and a diagram of the whole thing, along with a diagram of the colt, and just grafting the 2 together. I'm hoping it will make life much easyer when wiring the whole car up. Any thoughts.

Author:  miragesist [ Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:06 pm ]
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dont need to do that ,,,, is easy

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:02 pm ]
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ya, will the ecu work with my gauge cluster and everything. also im selling my 32bt so i would like to take the ecu and harness for that. will that cause a problem with wireing.

Author:  miragesist [ Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:07 pm ]
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The ECu has nothing to do with the gauges,,, for the gauges the wiring is routed different,, the only gauge that works with the ECU is the turbo gauge

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:21 pm ]
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Ok now that I'm pulling more and more out I'm finding that to be more true. There's basicly 2 sepret harnesses then, there are a few things that ran through my body harness on the colt like the o2 sensor but that no longer looks to be an issue. I guess I was stressed for no reason. Well another question, does anyone know what the stock clearinces for this motor are, like the cylinders, the crank. I talked to a budy of mine who runs a shop and he said that if there is no sighns of wear and the cylinders and the crank are withen the oe clearences then I could getaway with just a hone on my block instead of a bore. What does every one think. Oh and sorry about the spelling, my week point... thanks, benjamin

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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Amyone that has put in a dsm tranny with hydro clutch, help! I didn't even think about it and now its on top of me, what peddle setup do I need for the slave cylender. Or is there some moding I can do to mine. Thanks

Author:  miragesist [ Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:01 pm ]
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What year is your mirage?

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:05 am ]
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Its a 88.

Author:  miragesist [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:07 am ]
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If your mirage has a manual tranny no need to do anything, if your mirage came with automatic tranny you will need a pedal bundle form another 88
Or 89-92, also de clutch pump

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:32 am ]
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Ok it did have a manule, there is a clutch pedal but its not hydro. Can I swap it for the 89-92 pedal for the hydro clutch?

Author:  miragesist [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:02 pm ]
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if you have a clutch hyd pump in there you are ok

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: make it a twin, my 2nd gen 4g63t build

i dont,my car was cable only no hydro. i need to add a hydro clutch. i dont know if the 88 turbo colts had a hydro clutch or not. my 88 is not a turbo colt it was a 1.5 with a 4 speed. i had a 86 sedan turbo that had some real body and chasy issues so i swapped it all in. i had it for the most part done, drove it around the block a few times it worked well. but i had money, and time so now i want more.... thats why the swap. but i need the hydro clutch, how do i do it cheap. or can i use the turbo non hydro tranny i have from a 88... if it will work id like be willing to do that now. save a little money till i go back to work...

Author:  deco_will_fly [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:27 am ]
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so i finally took some pics, well had time to put them here, i still cant figure out how to get them to show but i will try
the first picture is the hydro clutch cylenders and peddles, iv got to getthis,

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i have to say i am happy with the turnout, it works good, i should pull that coil :lol:

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