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Good to see an update. Its looking real good too. Hows that tach working out? Let me guess its only reading half what its supposed to right? This is what my tach did in my van, and the reason i swapped in the dsm tach.

Isnt that just a 90 tach filter/ resistor/ whatever? Cause thats what mine has too. It didnt work for me. I guess ill go to the wrecker and grab another stock cluster, and try to get stocker working. I would like to get to the bottom of this. Its a known good tack/ filter its straight off my 90 colt swap

Any updated on this one?

the pedal seems to rebound fine (only dropped and stayed on the floor when we were bleeding it). the pedal engages about 1/2" off the floor and i noticed a similar engagement point when i was moving the donor car so i think we'll start with everything on that side of the equation (i.e. clutch slave, clutch/trans).

that being said, im going to change the clutch slave today since that a relatively easy one. if that doesnt fix it we'll probably pull the trans and look at the clutch itself since i have an ACT flywheel to put in and was thinking of getting an ACT 2600 anyway.

updates to follow.

The clutch is jacked (I think), I did a basic tune with my dad and drove it up and down the street. It was kind of a pita since I had to constantly pump the clutch to even get it to engage. spools nice but needs a serious tune beyond the eprom. Will be fun when the clutch/trans is fixed.

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Engage or disengage? If you could not get it to engage, unless its horribly mistrusted you simply need a new clutch!

Get to it.

Did you guys try to adjust the rod to get more travel?

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You must have it wired wrong.

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Then did same thing with van cluster and it read half of what it should on the tach, as if the signal needs to be amplified somehow.

Author:	dan [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:39 am ]
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The clutch is jacked (I think), I did a basic tune with my dad and drove it up and down the street. It was kind of a pita since I had to constantly pump the clutch to even get it to engage. spools nice but needs a serious tune beyond the eprom. Will be fun when the clutch/trans is fixed.

Author:	biggspeed [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:31 am ]
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Bummer on the clutch.... But kudo's to getting it running/moving. This thing is going to be a fun driver.

Author:	pimpy rider [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:30 pm ]
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Good to see an update. Its looking real good too. Hows that tach working out? Let me guess its only reading half what its supposed to right? This is what my tach did in my van, and the reason i swapped in the dsm tach.

Author:	dan [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:39 pm ]
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Quote: Good to see an update. Its looking real good too. Hows that tach working out? Let me guess its only reading half what its supposed to right? This is what my tach did in my van, and the reason i swapped in the dsm tach. Tach seems to work great. You need the OR gate like Micah showed in the pics.

Author:	pimpy rider [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:20 pm ]
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Isnt that just a 90 tach filter/ resistor/ whatever? Cause thats what mine has too. It didnt work for me. I guess ill go to the wrecker and grab another stock cluster, and try to get stocker working. I would like to get to the bottom of this. Its a known good tack/ filter its straight off my 90 colt swap

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Author:	boostfreak [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:21 pm ]
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Any updated on this one?

Author:	dan [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:29 pm ]
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Quote: Isnt that just a 90 tach filter/ resistor/ whatever? Cause thats what mine has too. It didnt work for me. I guess ill go to the wrecker and grab another stock cluster, and try to get stocker working. I would like to get to the bottom of this. Its a known good tack/ filter its straight off my 90 colt swap You must have it wired wrong. Quote: Any updated on this one? It's all together but the clutch won't disengage unless you pump it and it's ALL the way to the floor. I drove it up and down the street but that's it. I think it needs a new clutch, we never separated the trans from the engine when we dropped it in. Thoughts? Just an adjustment issue? To be honest I haven't spent even 1 minute trying to figure out what deal is..

Author:	CSM Shaun [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:57 pm ]
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Clutch pedal, clutch slave, clutch master. Inspect in that order. LOL

Author:	micah [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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the pedal seems to rebound fine (only dropped and stayed on the floor when we were bleeding it). the pedal engages about 1/2" off the floor and i noticed a similar engagement point when i was moving the donor car so i think we'll start with everything on that side of the equation (i.e. clutch slave, clutch/trans). that being said, im going to change the clutch slave today since that a relatively easy one. if that doesnt fix it we'll probably pull the trans and look at the clutch itself since i have an ACT flywheel to put in and was thinking of getting an ACT 2600 anyway. updates to follow.

Author:	boostfreak [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:27 pm ]
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Quote: the pedal seems to rebound fine (only dropped and stayed on the floor when we were bleeding it). the pedal engages about 1/2" off the floor and i noticed a similar engagement point when i was moving the donor car so i think we'll start with everything on that side of the equation (i.e. clutch slave, clutch/trans). that being said, im going to change the clutch slave today since that a relatively easy one. if that doesnt fix it we'll probably pull the trans and look at the clutch itself since i have an ACT flywheel to put in and was thinking of getting an ACT 2600 anyway. updates to follow. DSM AWD clutch/flywheel used for the stock trans?

Author:	89Mirageman [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:24 pm ]
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Did you guys try to adjust the rod to get more travel?

Author:	boostfreak [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:45 pm ]
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Quote: The clutch is jacked (I think), I did a basic tune with my dad and drove it up and down the street. It was kind of a pita since I had to constantly pump the clutch to even get it to engage. spools nice but needs a serious tune beyond the eprom. Will be fun when the clutch/trans is fixed. Engage or disengage? If you could not get it to engage, unless its horribly mistrusted you simply need a new clutch! Get to it.

Author:	micah [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:17 am ]
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Quote: Quote: The clutch is jacked (I think), I did a basic tune with my dad and drove it up and down the street. It was kind of a pita since I had to constantly pump the clutch to even get it to engage. spools nice but needs a serious tune beyond the eprom. Will be fun when the clutch/trans is fixed. Engage or disengage? If you could not get it to engage, unless its horribly mistrusted you simply need a new clutch! Get to it. haha! correction...disengage. technically speaking you are correct sir! =) Quote: Did you guys try to adjust the rod to get more travel? i did a few days ago but am going to try that again today. hopefully we can figure this out better w/ two bodies (one to push the pedal and one to check the movement of the slave cylinder, etc).

Author:	pimpy rider [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:09 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Isnt that just a 90 tach filter/ resistor/ whatever? Cause thats what mine has too. It didnt work for me. I guess ill go to the wrecker and grab another stock cluster, and try to get stocker working. I would like to get to the bottom of this. Its a known good tack/ filter its straight off my 90 colt swap You must have it wired wrong. [quote I dont know how thats possible but youre probably right. I tested it with a 90 dsm cluster (ran power, ground and tach signal) inside the cab of the van to ensure i had the wiring proper. ( the coilpack is a 90 unit with built in resistor) Then did same thing with van cluster and it read half of what it should on the tach, as if the signal needs to be amplified somehow. I just feel bad if i misinformed people about the tach not working, i did go to a good deal of effort to get it working.

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Author:	dan [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:59 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: You must have it wired wrong. Quote: Then did same thing with van cluster and it read half of what it should on the tach, as if the signal needs to be amplified somehow. The module is an OR gate so it effectively doubles the tach pulses. It's not a weak signal, just a digital pulse and your tach was only getting half the pulses. We just adjusted the clutch at the master and now it's drivable. Woot. Runs nice needs a read motor mount and a tune...